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This FA, last reviewed in 2006, has both a good bit of uncited text, and does not seem to be complete. The article does not discuss plant/animal life on the mountain, which seems relevant, and does not state if any further geological activity from the volcano is expected. Also, at least on my system, there is massive MOS:SANDWICH issues with images thrown in there haphazardly. Hog Farm Talk 04:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Comments from Graeme - some easy to fix things:
- Some images have no alt= text
- inconsistent use of nbsp; between St. and Helens.
- inappropriate capitalisation in heading "Importance to Indigenous Tribes"
- External links may need to be converted to references that support extra text.
- The science external link has a DOI 10.1126/science.aad7392 and author Eric Hand
- The link for "Mount St. Helens photographs and current conditions" does not appear to go that that topic, instead redirects to Cascades Volcano Observatory.
- reference 9 "Mount St. Helens at 35". has author Kathryn Hansen, but what is on that page now claims to be Aug 7, 2017 (after retrieval, so does it still confirm?)
- Reference 21 has author Donal R. Mullineaux; DOI 10.3133/pp1563 and year 1996
- reference 31 "Rock Slab Growing at Mt. St. Helens Volcano". has "others" cs1 maint error
- visitor center for the Mount St. Helens National Volcanic Monument is not mentioned here. This bit could include the link for Silver Lake (Washington)
- Helenite should be mentioned inline and not just in a see also.
- Geology of the Pacific Northwest should be able to have a link in the main text.
As much as I like these old featured articles, this article feels more like a GA than an FA to me. I will do some fixing:
- Images trimmed and sent to Commons gallery. MOS:SANDWICH problem fixed.
- Alt text added for remaining images
- nbsp; added for all uses of St. and Helens
- @Ceranthor: we could use some of your FA magic here, if you're free to help out! — hike395 (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
- Hike395 please remove the done templates and properly thread your responses without templates; templates are not used at FAC and FAR as they cause template limit problems, and responses should always be threaded. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:34, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Started section on ecology, including disturbance ecology and biological legacies. Started section on future hazards. Both of these sections can be fleshed out further (either by me or other authors). — hike395 (talk) 13:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- Move to FARC, there has been some engagement since the nomination, but the issues are extensive and are largely unaddressed. Moving to FARC does not preclude that improvements may happen, but it's not looking promising. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
@SandyGeorgia: --- could you kindly list more of the extensive issues? I addressed all of the comments from Graeme, and added (some) material re ecology and future hazards, which Hog Farm thought was lacking. I can certainly do more research and add more material on ecology, but if you think there are other large problems, I'd rather spend my limited WP time addressing those. — hike395 (talk) 19:19, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Will do (not quite yet, busy), but as this FAR is getting lengthy, I will probably start a section on article talk. Lengthy back and forth on FAR just makes a mess for the Coords to read, when all they really need is a summary of where things stand. If you want something to work on while you wait for me,
- huge portions of the article remain uncited, and
- anytime you see a US government website as a source, that citation should include a date. They are frequently updated, and our articles need to reflect those updates. There are considerable dated sources used here (and the dates of the versions used aren't even given)
- make sure ALL information is current.
- These three alone will keep an editor quite busy for quite a while. If these are completed, pls ping me to the article talk, where I will continue. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:37, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
- Would it be possible to delay closing of the FARC? Ceranthor, who has a proven track record of writing FAs about Cascade volcanoes, is interested in taking this up, but will not be available for ~1 month. — hike395 (talk) 19:22, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
- @Hike395 and Ceranthor: It's been about a month - what are we thinking with regards to timeline here? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:02, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
- I don't have time for more work on this --- I'm leaving it to Ceranthor, who is quite skilled at FAs for Cascade volcanoes. Hopefully they have time now? — hike395 (talk) 11:13, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
Something I noticed while taking a look at this article is that the introduction is too small for its size. Most volcano articles of this size with FA status have a lead section that is at least three or four paragraphs long. Volcanoguy 15:46, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
- I did a bit of extending on the prose, and I'm planning for it to be 4 paragraphs. Blue Jay (talk) 05:43, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
- @The great Jay: - Edits in May so far have been primarily been some prose work and a bit of gnoming stuff, it looks like. Work on the largest issues seems to have stalled out a bit. Hog Farm Talk 16:46, 24 May 2021 (UTC)