|This page was proposed for deletion by Piotrus (talk · contribs) on 1 September 2020 with the comment:|
The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar.
It was contested by MartinPoulter (talk · contribs) on 2020-09-07 with the comment:
Removing PROD because the deletion is heavily contested- see Talk- and Piotrus has been pinged
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Large sections of the page appear to have been lifted from the JISC website. I've reverted to the previous version until someone can show that the material was used with permission. Pishmishy 08:52, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
This article is still written entirely in 'management-speak', with lots of woolly and ultimately meaningless talk about 'strategy' and 'reviews' (which still looks as if it was lifted from the website), and absolutely no hard information about the types of projects which the organisation funds (or doesn't fund). GrindtXX (talk) 17:04, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
JISC is just JISC these days, it's not an acronym any more. See the JISC website, strategic plan etc. This page should be at [jisc] and [Joint Information Systems Committee] should redirect there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 14:33, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
For example, see: http://www.jisc.ac.uk/aboutus.aspx : JISC is the name of our organisation. Historically, it stood for Joint Information Systems Committee.
The following sentence (from the History of JISC section) is grammatical nonsense. I can't even begin to imagine how it was supposed to read:
- "A major challenge facing JISC when it was first established was to support a much larger community of institutions, comprising the ex-polytechnics and higher education colleges, along with the universities served by JISC’s predecessor bodies, the Information Systems Committee (ISC) and the Computer Board and acted as Vice-Chair to the ISC was appointed as Chair to the newly created JISC."
I'm currently employed as a contractor for Jisc, so will not edit the article. Some things that are out of date:
Jisc's registered charity number (in England and Wales) is 1149740 - can be confirmed through the official database at http://www.charitycommission.gov.uk/find-charities/
Present-tense statements should call it Jisc, not JISC, since it's no longer an acronym.
- I changed leader. Non-departmental public body should probably be something else too, do you know a good wikilink? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:02, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
Additional references and update suggestions
Hello, I work for Jisc so can't edit the page directly. This is only my second time contributing, so apologies if I make any errors.
On the request for more secondary sources talking about Jisc's work, would any of these be of use:
Academic publishing / negotiations
- Universities 'will cancel deals with publishers' (Research information, Aug 2020)
- Cut UK academic publishing fees by 25 per cent, urge universities (Times Higher Education, June 2020)
- ‘Step-change’ agreement between Wiley, Jisc and UK institutions (The Bookseller, Mar 2020)
- UK universities ‘paid big publishers £1 billion’ in past decade (Times Higher Education, Mar 2020)
- ‘A new era for schools’ – government unveils £10m education technology strategy (Public Technology, Apr 2019)
- FE cybersecurity: drop in DDoS attacks during lockdown (tes, May 2020)
- College cyberattacks on the rise (tes, Feb 2020)
- More universities strengthening their cyber security (National Cyber Security Centre, Nov 2019)
- Hackers beat university cyber-defences in two hours (BBC, Apr 2019)
Educational data and analytics
- Graduates earn 35pc more – but leave university with £55k in debt. Is it worth it? (The Daily Telegraph, Aug 2020)
- Jisc and HESA: an integration for the future of data (Wonkhe, Jan 2019)
In terms of other updates - the logo has changed. I'm not sure what the process would be to get the new one added - but I can provide a copy if needed.
- Hi @Piotrus: In light of the above links that Hfd rich has posted, the ref that I've added under Further Reading, and the mentions of Jisc in government documents  are you willing to accept that the organisation is notable? The article is unarguably terrible but the organisation itself is such a long-established part of the education sector in the UK — that most universities or colleges have contact with — that it would be very strange for Wikipedia not to have an article about it. MartinPoulter (talk) 17:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
- Just to agree in principle with MartinPoulter. Jisc is an important component in the infrastructure of higher education in the UK, and by all reasonable standards is undoubtedly notable. The problem, I suspect, is that most of the time it just quietly gets on with its job, and so only rarely hits the headlines. In addition to points already made, note that there are over 200 wikilinks to this article; and also a German-language counterpart (albeit equally in need of revision and updating). GrindtXX (talk) 18:39, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
I too am not a particularly active Wikipedian, but thought I'd comment to object to the deletion of JISC. There is a fair amount in the academic literature, particularly on digital preservation, penned by or referring to them e.g. The Digital Curation Centre and Where’s the Archivist in Digital Curation? Exploring the Possibilities through a Matrix of Knowledge and Skills. I have no affiliation to JISC. DistractionActivity (talk) 20:58, 5 September 2020 (UTC).
Jisc is notable
A quick search on Google Scholar yields 16,100 hits for "Joint Information Systems Committee" 223 Wikipedia articles link to Jisc Google Scholar yeilds 12,600 hits for "COPAC", the Jisc predecessor I object to the deletion. However, I do agree that the page has major problems. Johncosgrave (talk) 17:36, 6 September 2020 (UTC)