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Please use this page for discussions surrounding the creation of "Did You Know" items for April Fools' Day 2021

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Ground rules for this activity along with a list of participants may be found on the Main talk page.

Rules

April Fools Did You Know items should present some trivia that can be presented in a manner that is possibly unbelievable to the reader. This can be done through words or names that mean two different things, shortened names, unbelievable facts, unrelated facts, etc. The normal written and unwritten rules for Did You Know (DYK) are followed, with these exceptions...

• April Fools DYKs are subject to the usual exclusions regarding prior Main Page appearance, but the normal rules for special occasions do not apply: the article need only have been created/expanded/brought to GA in the year immediately preceding the April 1 on which it will appear.
• Proper capitalization, title formatting, and linking standards may be disregarded only if adhering to them will tend to give away the joke. This should be done as little as possible. (example from 2009: "... that Caviar, Chardonnay, and Hot Cocoa compete for the love of Ray J? ")

All other Wikipedia rules and guidelines still apply. Pay special attention to Wikipedia's Biographies of living persons guidelines if your hook relates to a living person.

Remember, we are trying to confuse and mislead Wikipedians and visitors, not lie to them. Keep all hooks and articles completely truthful, but outrageous. (examples from 2010: A hook claiming Dmitry Medvedev died in 2005 is ok, saying Mikheil Saakashvili died is not.)

How to review a nomination

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets the DYK criteria except, per above, the normal new enough rule (long enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines.

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or note that there is an issue with the article or hook, please use the following symbols to point the issues out:

Symbol	Code	DYK Ready?	Description
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	{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
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	{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page, in case they do not notice that there is an issue.

Nominations

Awaiting verification

Note: Nominations for April 1 should be added to Template talk:Did you know in the usual way, as well as below.

Verified hooks

Rio de Flag

• ... that there has been a Bottomless Pit in east Flagstaff for over 100 years? Source: [1]

• Reviewed: Cypress Creek Middle High School

Created by Kingsif (talk). Self-nominated at 18:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC).

• I don't think this is DYK eligible. Per F8, " A 'new' article is no more than seven days old. This does not include articles split from older articles, although an article sufficiently expanded from a section of an older article can be a fivefold expansion." buidhe 22:31, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

• The section on the river didn't exist in the article it was split from for more than a few days before the split, upon realizing it was better as a standalone. You'd have to be going entirely against the spirit of the rule to not allow this. Kingsif (talk) 03:56, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

• OK, after checking the page history I can see that you are right. In future, it's best to clarify what's going on in a comment if there have been splits or page content is moved around.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New Enough: Y Long Enough: Y

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: N - Friends of the Rio de Flag seems to be a minor nonprofit organization that has not demonstrated "reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" as required by WP:RS.
• Neutral: Y
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Y

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Y Interesting: Y

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Recommend linking only "Bottomless Pit", the capitalization makes it clear that this refers to a specific place. buidhe 04:09, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for the review - I'll make a note next time if I nominate something with a more complicated history again. Re. Friends of the Rio de Flag, they have their own sources and references page on the website (and are based in Flagstaff and the Museum of Northern Arizona). So, all of their information will be from these published sources or observational, which I think is reliable. Maybe we can examine this further? Kingsif (talk) 15:43, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

• Buidhe, Kingsif, this seems to have stalled. Is there anything needed to get it going again? Thanks. (PS: the rule about new material being split off into its own article is at WP:DYKSG#A5.) BlueMoonset (talk) 13:34, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

• I ran this article and the version of Flagstaff, Arizona it was split off from in Duplication detector. Even after subtracting the parts that were split off, the new material written would still amount to more than the 1,500 character minimum required of newly created articles. As for the reliability of Friends of the Rio de Flag, they're a community group that was invited to attend a City Council meeting and awarded a grant from the EPA. So, in this case, I would err on the side of accepting the info in their sources as reliable and fact-checked. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 04:30, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

• Hi, I came by to promote this, but I do not understand why East Flagstaff is part of the piped link, or why the river is being referred to as the bottomless pit (and why capitalized?) Yoninah (talk) 18:58, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks, @Yoninah: - it was mentioned above that the piped link should probably only be on the Bottomless Pit part, which just wasn't tweaked. Part of the river includes a feature known as the Bottomless Pit (capitalized). If the hook isn't clear, is there any suggestion you have to reword it? Kingsif (talk) 19:11, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

• @Kingsif: well, it does seem like an Easter Egg. I'm wondering if you want to nominate it for April Fools Day? This is how I would write it:
• ALT0a: ... that there has been a bottomless pit in East Flagstaff, Arizona, for more than 100 years? Yoninah (talk) 19:17, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

• Sure, I don't mind. I'm not sure it's funny enough for AFD? Kingsif (talk) 19:21, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

• So perhaps you could suggest a different hook? Yoninah (talk) 19:22, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

• Approving ALT0a for April Fools Day next year. @Kingsif: feel free to propose other hooks which I'll be more than happy to take a look at. —Bloom6132 (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

• If it's for April Fools Day, "bottomless pit" should be lowercase. And Kingsif, it doesn't have to be funny, just deceptive. The reader clicks on it expecting to see a bottomless pit and instead sees a river—"April Fools!" Yoninah (talk) 00:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

• I'm cool with that - I've never had an AFD hook before. I'll ask at the WikiCup talk page if it counts, but thanks :) Kingsif (talk) 01:34, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Ate my balls

• ... that Mr. T and Mr. Spock ate my balls? Source: Adweek

• Comment: For next year's April Fools Day

Moved to mainspace by EnPassant (talk) and The C of E (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 15:08, 18 June 2020 (UTC).

• Comment: Please, yes! ♟♙ (talk) 15:45, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

• New enough and long enough. Well sourced (there's a source in the article for Mr. T and Mr. Spock is covered by the Adweek one included here). The C of E} needs to provide a QPQ as they are the nominator and have more than 5 DYK credits. I've added a short description and clippings for the two newspaper sources that didn't have them. This will get a tick when The C of E reviews an article. Raymie (t • c) 06:26, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

• Ooops, uncommon oversight on my part @Raymie:, apologies. I've just done Template:Did you know nominations/Police officer certification and licensure in the United States for it. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:11, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

• This is ready for the April Fool's Day holding area. Raymie (t • c) 08:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler Uunona

• ... that Adolf Hitler is not planning world domination? Source: Sky News

• Reviewed: Dachau camp trial
• Comment: For April Fools Day (if it survives the AFD of course)

Created by Finleyb43 (talk) and The C of E (talk). Nominated by The C of E (talk) at 17:14, 4 December 2020 (UTC).

• A few bits besides the ongoing AFD:

• The article is under minimum length (I count around 1,400 characters one the quotes are stripped out)
• I note that Newsweek (post 2013) is listed as WP:RSP as "not generally reliable" and to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. Can the information it is used to cite be cited elsewhere?
• Likewise Bild is listed at WP:RSP as unreliable

More than happy to take a proper look once the AFD has run its course - Dumelow (talk) 07:10, 8 December 2020 (UTC)

• • @Dumelow: Strictly speaking, under rule A2 of WP:DYKSG, only block quotes are excluded rather than regular ones. As for the other sources, I have replaced the Newsweek one. I have kept the Bild one because that was the original source of the interview but I have backed it up with other sources that mention the German interview. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 06:53, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

No worries, I'll check back in later once the AFD has reached a resolution - Dumelow (talk) 10:01, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

@Dumelow: The AFD has closed now. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 08:15, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks The C of E. As stated, the Newsweek source is now gone and Bild is only used to cite the fact that he was in a n interview with them. Article has increased in length and is now comfortably above the minimum. The quote "It doesn't mean I'm striving for world domination" is in the article and backed up by the source (Sky News), which also calls the subject "Adolf Hitler". I didn't pick up any overly close paraphrasing and all quotes are appropriately indicated; approving if, and only if, this is used as an April Fool's Day hook. Otherwise I think it is too "out there", even for the quirky slot - Dumelow (talk) 08:31, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Adolf Hitler (Calypso)

• ... that Adolf Hitler was regarded as one of the finest calypsoes of the era?
  • ALT1:... that Cliff Morris won the Calypso King competition of 1941 with Adolf Hitler?

Created by Megalogastor (talk). Self-nominated at 20:11, 12 December 2020 (UTC).

• Passing by. I'm thinking that it is more suitable for WP:DYKAPRIL. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 16:42, 13 December 2020 (UTC)

Review:

Formalities:

• Prose size (text only): 1579 characters (267 words) (according to DYK standards this is not a stub)
• Article created by Megalogastor on December 12, 2020

Hook and sourcing:

• fewer than 200 characters
• interesting
• sourced
• QPQ done

Status: Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 10:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Second opinion needed as to will this be better off in WP:DYKAPRIL. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 10:47, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Agreed. Excellent for April 1. Onceinawhile (talk) 15:10, 18 December 2020 (UTC)

Jeromi Mikhael Please can you add {{subst:DYKtick}} to this review if it's approved? All DYKs need this specific tick for the bot to movem to the DYK approved page. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:55, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Pinging The C of E as the main editor for April Fools DYK to see if this would qualify for an April Fools DYK hook. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeromi Mikhael (talk • contribs) 15:44, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

I'm all for more April Fools hooks @Jeromi Mikhael: and @Mandarax: though we might have to collaborate a bit because this will be our 3rd Hitler hook in the holding area! We might have to combine them all somehow. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 11:41, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@The C of E: How about a 20 April special? Or 30 April? 30 April would mean that we start and end the month with a joke... Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 12:12, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@Jeromi Mikhael: I can see where you're going but it's not a good idea because there are some around who don't like jokes outside AFD. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:54, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

@The C of E: I've put it in the DYKAPRIL space. Feel free to suggest any other funnier and catchier hook. Personally I prefer ALT1, as readers would expect Adolf Hitler as a co-winner of the Calypso King.Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 13:09, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

United States v. One Solid Gold Object in Form of a Rooster

• ... that the United States once sued a golden cock but cried fowl when the cock won? Source: Google Scholar
  • ALT1:... that United States Marshals grabbed Dick's golden cock? Source: Consumerist

• Reviewed: South Main Street Historic District (Memphis, Tennessee)
• Comment: For April Fools Day (sorry @EEng:, I hope the alt gives you the rest from the traditional "X sued object"!)

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 16:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC).

• Article is new and long enough. QPQ has been completed. Article is well-written and adequately cited, with no copyvio or close paraphrasing. Hooks are clever, cited, and short enough for DYK. Morgan695 (talk) 19:50, 3 January 2021 (UTC)

White House horseshoe pit

• ... that President George H. W. Bush was King of the Pit? Source: "The best horseshoe team was the Housemen, led by Ron Jones, a man with the swagger and physique of an NFL lineman. One evening before the big semifinals, the trash talking reached a crescendo, and the president (who was already out of the tournament) had had enough. He shed his suit coat to take on Ron mano-a-mano in a one-game grudge match to see who was the "King of the Pit." It lasted just 5 minutes, and the president won 21–0." Farewell to Our Horseshoe President, Brian Yablonski, National Review, 11 December 2018

• Reviewed:Template:Did you know nominations/Royal Victoria Arcade, Ryde

Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Self-nominated at 23:40, 26 December 2020 (UTC).

• Comment I don't know if its just me being daft @No Swan So Fine: but it seems to me that the nomination page was created on the 26th (article created on the 23rd) but placed on the DYK page on the 4th. Was this just an oversight? The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:36, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Yes, apologies. I got distracted after completing the template! No Swan So Fine (talk) 09:48, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

• With that clarified, the review is as follows. Date and length fine. However the hook needs the inline citation and I'd be happier if the article was broken down into sections. Plus were you April Foolsing this @No Swan So Fine:? QPQ is done, with no close paraphrasing. Picture is fully licenced. Please ping me and I'll have another look once that's done. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 09:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, I've fixed your qualms. April 1 would be great! No Swan So Fine (talk) 10:13, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Good to go for April Fools Day then. (might have to alter the picture caption to "The King of the Pit" or something!) The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 10:15, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

John William Bean

• ... that Mr. Bean once attempted to kill Queen Victoria with tobacco? Source: History Channel

• Reviewed: International Conference on the Holocaust and Genocide
• Comment: For April Fools Day (Thanks QI!)

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 10:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC).

• Review:

• Formalities:

• Prose size (text only): 3848 characters (675 words) "readable prose size"
• Article created by The C of E on January 4, 2021
• Article moved from User:The C of E/jwb on January 4, 2021

• Criteria:

• Formatting Y
• Content interesting to a broad audience Y
• Hook fact is accurate and cited with an inline citation in the article Y
• Neutral and does not focus unduly on negative aspects of living people Y
• QPQ Y

• Comment: C-c-combo April 1! Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 12:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Hitler Nababan

• ... that Hitler was beaten by an angry mob after posting a meme to #general a WhatsApp group? Source: Awaluddin, Luthfiana (24 May 2018). "Misteri Pembocor 'Pesawat Pengintai' yang Bikin Hitler Bonyok". Detik.com. Karawang. Retrieved 11 November 2020.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Reuven Fahn
• Comment: For April Fools DYK, see here. Striketrough #general in reference to a popular meme.

Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Self-nominated at 03:46, 11 November 2020 (UTC).

• ALT1 ... that Hitler eventually apologized? EEng 04:14, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
• ALT2: ... that Hitler did something wrong? Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 04:17, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
• ALT3: ... that Hitler was in the Democratic Party? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• ALT3A: ... that Hitler endorsed the Democratic Party? Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 01:50, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• ALT3B: ... that Hitler was a member of the Democratic Party? Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 01:50, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• alt4 ... that the Islamic Defenders Front stated that Hitler's acts were intolerable? Cbl62 (talk) 19:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
• alt5 ... that a Democratic Party leader stated that Hitler's acts do not represent the Democratic Party as a whole? Cbl62 (talk) 19:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

• His first name is "Hitler"? And he looks like he was born after 1945. Oy givalt. Article was created in userspace and moved to mainspace within the time guidelines. It is long enough and appears to be written neutrally. The article is well sourced, and the AGF is because about half of them are in Indonesian. All hooks are verified inline. ALT0 is good. Who wouldn't want to see Hitler beaten? ALT1 is interesting, ALT2 is too vague I think, ALTS 3, 3a, and 3b may be too incendiary given the uncomfortable feel it gave me reading them as a registered member of the Democratic Party (United States). ALT4 is solid. ALT5 is less so, but still makes me think of the WP:AP2 battles a bit. QPQ is completed. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:53, 29 November 2020 (UTC)

@Muboshgu: Late reply, I've found out that he is born after 1945. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 13:29, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

• This DYK should win an award, the alts are very funny; this would be such an awesome April Fools Day DYK. Also a registered Dem, but I thought Alts 3, 3a, and 3b are pretty perfect, give how utterly ridiculous the statements sound on their face. Footlessmouse (talk) 00:38, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

Just a bit of a background, the Nias and the Batak people (Nababan is Bataknese) have a very special connection to the Germans, given that the Germans spread Christianity there. The Bataks and Nias view Germans positively, even post-Hitler. That's why the Free Republic of Nias exists. There are a lot of Bataknese with Hitler as their first name (AFAIK approx. 5,000 Bataks have Hitler in their name, and Adolf is also common among Bataks). Some news which involved Hitler has some funny headlines, for example this news headline which states "Robber surrenders and flees after Hitler appears in the crime scene" or this "Hitler stabs wife due to jealousy". Anyway, there are a lot of prominent Hitler in the Bataknese community. I'm checking newspapers to see if there is more notable Hitler. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 15:16, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

If ALT0 is the one used, "#general" should be removed. It's an obscure meme that detracts from the hook. I would also like to state on record that I would generally not want to see provincial Indonesian officials beaten. CMD (talk) 15:34, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

After a bit of discussion, apparently, these hooks are the remaining candidates. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 12:51, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

• ALT0A: ... that Hitler was beaten by an angry mob after posting a meme to a WhatsApp group?
• ALT3: ... that Hitler was in the Democratic Party? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:41, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
• ALT3A: ... that Hitler endorsed the Democratic Party? Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 01:50, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
• ALT3B: ... that Hitler was a member of the Democratic Party? Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 01:50, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Jeromi Mikhael, Muboshgu, I'm puzzled as to why this is still considered not approved on the April Fool's page, and also by the list of hooks immediately above. By my reading, there is disagreement on the various ALT3 hooks (reviewer Muboshgu called them "may be too incendiary"), and Muboshgu approved ALT1 ("interesting") and ALT4 ("solid") though Jeromi Mikhael didn't include them, with ALT0A (ALT0 without the strikeout per CMD). Jeromi Mikhael, do you have specific objections to ALT1 or ALT4, or did you not list them because they weren't your idea? BlueMoonset (talk) 17:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

BlueMoonset, I also don't know why this isn't approved. Was there some discussion held elsewhere that is signified by that horizontal line at December 1? None of these proposed hooks are problematic, none of them have been struck. The ALT3x hooks are okay. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Actually, I see a significant issue. Per WP:SURNAME, the subject should be referred to as "Nababan" in the article rather than "Hitler" after the initial "Hitler Nababan" in the lede. Because this is for April Fools', it's fine to use "Hitler" alone in the hook, but not appropriate in the article. (I don't see any indication that Indonesian names should be any different; indeed, Ahmad Rifai is subsequently referred to as "Rifai".) Jeromi Mikhael, this will need to be addressed before approval can be reinstated. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:48, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: Sorry about the horizontal line thing. I just inferred the hooks based on Muboshgu's opinion. I thought "solid" indicates something wrong with the hook (I'm not a native speaker)Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 02:57, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

@BlueMoonset: I've added the Indonesian name template to the top of the article. Almost all sources I use mention Hitler Nababan as Hitler in their article. Hope this clarifies your concern. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 02:48, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Hi Jeromi, do you have a source for that? Nababan is often an actual surname. CMD (talk) 02:54, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Well, Hitler Nababan is a Batak, and Nababan is his marga (e.g. clan name). I am also a batak too with Sagala as my marga, but people rarely refer me as Sagala. Bataks are rarely referred to by their clan name. We only refer to each other with our clan name in special circumstances (e.g. in church, clan meetups). Check out related discussion in here. Further reading see this. Regards, Jeromi Mikhael ^(marhata) 03:15, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Understood, the issue is that the template you added specifies the name is Patronymic, which is different from a clan-based name. I've checked the template removed the patronymic note, but it is still incorrect to say there is no family name. The template needs more flexibility. However, there should really be an exception for Indonesians at MOS:GIVENNAME, so I agree for the purposes of this particular discussion that the name used in the article should not be Nabahan. CMD (talk) 03:53, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Okay, since "Hitler" is the persons name (and "Nababan" is not a surname), restoring Muboshgu's earlier approval, noting that the approved hooks are listed in Muboshgu's original review. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:48, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Alligator Rainwear

• ... that an Alligator in PVC gave Mary Quant a wet look? Source: "Quant launched her 'Wet Collection' in April 1963 at the Hôtel de Crillon, Paris, featuring entirely PVC garments. ... The material was so innovative that it took another two years before a collaboration with British manufacturer Alligator Rainwear resulted in a commercially viable range of Mary Quant PVC raincoats." ([2])
  • ALT1:... that an Alligator in PVC made Mary Quant look wet?

• Reviewed: Submarine Sadko

Created by Edwardx (talk), Philafrenzy (talk), and Whispyhistory (talk). Nominated by Edwardx (talk) at 01:20, 17 November 2020 (UTC).

• Unless the intention was to make the hook vague on purpose (or invite readers to read the Alligator link), I don't think the hook works unless you know what PVC is or are familiar with Quant. Could something less vague be suggested here too? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

• Yes it is deliberately ambiguous and intended for the final slot as there are no suitable free images for a picture hook. I think ALT1 will make a good hook there. Philafrenzy (talk) 11:35, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

• Narutolovehinata5, surely all hooks ought to aim to get the reader to click on a link. Quant, Dior and Chanel have been called the three most important fashion designers of the 20th century. PVC is a commonly used and well-known material, not just in fashion. Edwardx (talk) 11:38, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

Perhaps the hook could work as an AFD hook with the current wording, but otherwise it still seems too vague personally. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:52, 28 November 2020 (UTC)

• @Edwardx: Would you be okay with the nomination running as an April Fools Day hook? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
• Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and is free from close paraphrasing. Whispy provided a QPQ. The "Wet Look" wording is only mentioned (uncited) in the lede, and Mary Quant is not linked in the body but only in the lede. In fact, several statements in the lede are only mentioned there (without a reference) and are not found anywhere else in the article. In addition, the "Recent history" section appears incomplete, as it makes no mention about when the brand was acquired. Meanwhile, the relationship between Alligator Mill and Alligator Rainwear is not made clear in the relevant section. As mentioned earlier, I have some reservations about approving either hook except as part of the AFD set, though I'm willing to request a second opinion from another editor who may be more willing to accept it. As a possible alternative, a hook about how one of the company's owners was a victim of the Munich air disaster is a possible option, though due to it being a negative event, not going with it is acceptable. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 18:10, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
• @Edwardx: As the nomination is almost a month old and article issues remain, the nomination may be failed unless there is a prompt response and the issues are addressed. Courtesy ping to co-nominators Whispyhistory and Philafrenzy. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 07:28, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
• I see that Whispyhistory has been expanding the article further and has addressed several concerns that were raised above. Please let me know when you're done working on it so that the review may continue. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:38, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

  Thanks @Narutolovehinata5:...Not sure what else to do there. Maybe the others can think of a hook relating to Alligator's assistance being sought to fix/secure the PVC garment seams which led to Quant's PVC products being sold commercially. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:10, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

@Whispyhistory: For one thing, the exact relationship between Alligator Mill and Alligator Rainwear is never elaborated on in the article and isn't immediately obvious in any case. There's also no mention of when and why they were acquired by Baker Street Brands, although if no sources (online or offline) that can elaborate on this, then it's okay. As for the hooks, I'm willing to approve either provided that they run on April Fools, as otherwise the hooks just feel too vague or misleading to be in the quirky slot as is. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 10:32, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

I will look at the sourcing but the whole point of the last slot is to be vague, misleading, and humorous. Philafrenzy (talk) 12:45, 16 December 2020 (UTC)

• @Philafrenzy, Whispyhistory, and Edwardx: Any updates on the sourcing part? I see that the article has had some expansions since the last comments made here. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:21, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5:. Thank you for being patient. I have done what I can. Will leave rest to @Philafrenzy and Edwardx:...unless you think I need to do more. Whispyhistory (talk) 21:13, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm just waiting for a confirmation that the expansion is finished and the review will continue. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

• Is the article expansion done now? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:31, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Just pinging @Whispyhistory to get this moving again - apparently nominator is awaiting your answer. --LordPeterII (talk) 21:58, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Sure...Go ahead with review....I don't have anything further to add to the article. Apologies, I didn't realise a reply was awaited from me. Whispyhistory (talk) 22:04, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Also waiting for a response from Edwardx regarding the other article concerns. @Whispyhistory: Would you also be open for ALT0 to be an April Fools hook? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:48, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: Thankyou. ALT0 on April fool's day okay with me. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:38, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

Noted. Still waiting on a final response from Edwardx regarding the completion of the article expansion as well as the AFD hook possibility. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 07:04, 23 January 2021 (UTC)

I have just read it and everything in the lead now appears in the body. There is certainly a long section explaining the relationship with Quant. All this pinging is fine but perhaps the reviewer could state specifically anything they are not happy with so that it may be fixed. We know they don't like the hook, but they are completely wrong about that. It's a very good hook (Alt1) with a nice play on words where "wet look" (shiny PVC raincoats that looked like they were wet) is reversed to "look wet" juxtaposed with "an Alligator", i.e. a raincoat made by Alligator. It's British surreal humour, but that's appropriate and appreciated by most English speakers. Readers will immediately understand that it's a little cryptic play on words that they have to decode in their mind and that it is not intended to be read literally. Their curiosity aroused, they will then click on the link for the "reveal" where everything is explained. Philafrenzy (talk) 09:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

As of right now I'm really only willing to approve the original wording if it goes up as an April Fools Day hook, because otherwise it personally just feels too misleading even for a quirky slot. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:14, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

• OK, do you have any other objections? Philafrenzy (talk) 12:19, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

The article is almost good to go: it just needs a little more clarification about the relationship between the mill and the brand (as far as I can tell, the mill was the brand's factory? The wording is somewhat confusing). In addition, as the article is written in British English, shouldn't "Willie" be 'Willie' like the other quotes? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:24, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Have changed "Willie" to 'Willie', even though British English has no firm position on this. As for Alligator mill and the Alligator brand, factories are of course usually named after brands/companies, not vice versa. Philafrenzy has gone to some effort to clarify the usage of Alligator, but ultimately we can only summarise reliable sources, and seeking to make inferences can be WP:OR. The US and UK courts are littered with such unresolved trademark disputes. Edwardx (talk) 12:59, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

I wonder whether we should just remove all the quotation marks from Alligator as the capital A seems sufficient. Philafrenzy (talk) 13:19, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Per MOS:DOUBLE, I have standardized on double quotes; even though British English uses single quotes for a number of things, Wikipedia's manual of style is for double quotes in these uses. Narutolovehinata5, do the recent changes take care of your remaining issues? BlueMoonset (talk) 18:43, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I think my issues with the Mill-Rainwear association are now mostly resolved by the sentence mentioning it was one of the subject's four factories, if barely. The only thing that remains is whether or not Edward is fine with this going up as an AFD hook. If they agree, the nomination will be approved; if they disagree, I will leave the final decision on whether to use ALT0 or ALT1 to another editor. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 02:27, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

@Edwardx: Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:40, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

@Narutolovehinata5: 1 April is fine with me. I admit to some confusion over the use of AFD, as normally that means Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, but maybe that's just me. Edwardx (talk) 12:17, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

• Okay, the nomination is now approved for WP:DYKAPRIL; choice of hook is left to the promoter. @BlueMoonset: Perhaps you can do the honors? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 12:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Great Michigan Pizza Funeral

• ... that in 1973 Michigan governor William Milliken gave the homily at a funeral for 29,188 frozen cheese and mushroom pizzas? The contemporary press reported up to 44,000 pizzas buried but Mark Harvey, a state archivist from the Michigan History Center states "the actual court transcript lists it at 29,188 ... there's at least two different newspapers accounts that governor Milliken was present and gave the homily" from approx 4.00 on the clip from: "Forty-five years ago this small Michigan town had a pizza funeral". Michigan Radio (28 February 2018). Retrieved 3 January 2021.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Adele Rose
• Comment: Strikes me as a good April Fools Day hook

Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Self-nominated at 19:35, 4 January 2021 (UTC).

• Approved for April 1st The article was moved to mainspace today, so is new enough. It is way more than needed in length and it reads neutrally with in-line citations. The hook is interesting and funny, short enough, and has in-line citations with no copyvio issues. The QPQ has also been done already. Everything looks good to go! Silverseren^C 22:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Johnny Dickshot

• ... that Johnny Dickshot was captain of the All-Ugly team? "Sports Stew-Served Hot". The Pittsburgh Press. July 14, 1936. p. 22. Retrieved January 24, 2021 – via Newspapers.com.
  • ALT1:... that Johnny Dickshot said that he was "the ugliest man in baseball"? Dunbar, Lee (August 17, 1943). "On The Level". Oakland Tribune. p. 14. Retrieved January 24, 2021 – via Newspapers.com.

• Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mabuhi!
• Comment: ALT0 has some April 1 possibilities. Too bad there are no free photos.

5x expanded by Muboshgu (talk). Self-nominated at 21:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC).

• Newness requirement satisified by 5x expansion between 1/24 and 1/27. Article is also long enough, well sourced/cited, and policy compliant (and Earwig detects no issues). The hooks are interesting, short enough, and supported by in-line sources. Personally, I prefer alt0 which I think is close to being a perfect hook. Nice work! And QPQ satisfied. Cbl62 (talk) 00:48, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

• I agree with ALT0 being the best to use, @Muboshgu: I have taken the liberty of moving it to the AFD holding area for you. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 15:43, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

Romano Floriani Mussolini

• ... that Benito Mussolini is not interested in politics? Source: Guardian
  • ALT1:... that Mussolini is not interested in politics Source: Guardian

• Reviewed: 2017 EFL League Two play-off Final
• Comment: April Fools day (we seem to be building towards a dictator's set!)

Created by The C of E (talk). Self-nominated at 08:49, 3 February 2021 (UTC).

• Articles is new enough, long enough, well written and referenced, no copyvio. Hooks are interesting and have been verified. I personally think ALT1 is more concise but there's nothing wrong with either. QPQ has been done. Approved for 1 April. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:28, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

Allochronic speciation

• ... that the timing of reproduction (such as breeding season in animals or the timing of flowering in plants) can cause the formation of a new species in a process known as allochronic speciation? Coyne & Orr (2004)
  • ALT1: ... that allochronic speciation has occurred in periodical cicada populations that only emerge every 221 years? Source: Taylor & Friesen (2017)
  • ALT2: ... that the timing of flowering or breeding seasons in organisms can cause the formation of new species in a process known as allochronic speciation? Coyne & Orr (2004)

Created by Andrew Z. Colvin (talk). Self-nominated at 20:36, 19 December 2020 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New Enough: Y Long Enough: Y

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Y Neutral: Y Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Y

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Y Interesting: Y

QPQ: Done.

Overall: I think the one about cicadas and 221-year cycles is much more interesting, but either could be fine. jp×g 05:12, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

• I recently reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Rohana Muthalib. I also cited the paragraph in question. I also like the ALT1 as it's more interesting. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 19:22, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

Excellent! Looks good to me. jp×g 18:22, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

• Returned from prep per discussion at WT:DYK#Allochronic speciation. The ALT1 is incorrectly phrased and the ALT0 reads like a textbook entry. Please suggest a different hook. Yoninah (talk) 00:28, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

We didn't have a page on allochronic speciation?

• ALT3: ... that an Inurois moth species is allochronically speciating into early and late winter species due to it being too cold to breed mid-winter?
• ALT4: ... that some marsupial mice may have become different species due to breeding at different times, thanks to their responses to daylight?
• Or wait till April: ALT5: ... that having sex at different times may produce new species?

CMD (talk) 07:09, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

The April one would be pretty funny.

• Maybe: ALT6: ... that allochronic speciation may partially cause the high biodiversity found along Earth’s equator? Martin et al. (2009) Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 02:57, 4 January 2021 (UTC)

Hmm so I just wanted to say that while all the new hooks sound good, I would personally vote for the April Fool's version. That one is so witty! --LordPeterII (talk) 00:08, 8 January 2021 (UTC)

Honestly, I’d have to agree. All the DYKs I submit are speciation-based, so why not have one happen for a unique day? Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 10:26, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Yoninah, then would you approve ALT5 for April's Fool? Since this was returned from prep I don't know who should approve. --LordPeterII (talk) 00:21, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Yoninah hasn't been active lately so another editor may need to sign off the idea. @JPxG:? Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 11:05, 30 January 2021 (UTC)

ALT1 is really fascinating to me, personally (it's backed up by the article and the sources, right?) But the author seems to think the joke one is good, so we can just run with that one then. jp×g 03:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)

I also like Alt1 but it was struck for some reason. It's one of the most cited and most studied examples in allochrony, so it definitely is relevant. I'm okay with it or the April Fool's one. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 23:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm willing to approve ALT5, I just need the relevant sentence and source to be specified so I can try verification (or if it's an offline source, approve under AGF). Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 06:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I wrote it as a generic summary, but would "Allochrony can involve a number of factors that induce the formation of a new species...Many organisms also breed at different times of the day, different seasons in the year, and even over multiple years or decades." sourced to [3]"Allochrony can act over different timescales – over the day, between seasons or between years – and clearly can automatically result in assortative mating...64 case studies were found, of which nine appear to be true or incipient allochronic speciation (in bold in Table S1) and a further eight may be true allochronic divergence but further study is needed..." suffice? CMD (talk) 06:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I think this suffices well. It alines with the source well. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 23:16, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I think there is some consensus here to go with ALT5 for April Fools. It's based on the article wordings, and it has been verified in the provided source. As such this is now good to go. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 03:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Cake and Cunnilingus Day

• ... that 14 April is Cake and Cunnilingus Day? (not pictured) Source: "14 April - Cake And Cunnilingus Day marks a clear response to Steak And Blow Job Day, and as a fan both cake and cunnilingus, I'm tempted to be all about this holiday. However, like all sex things, I can't jive unless it's an enthusiastic consent thing. No charitable component facade here, though, sadly." ([4])
  • ALT1:... that 14 April is the day for women to get cake and cunnilingus? (as above)
  • ALT2:... that women have got their own back over steaks and blowjobs? (as above)

• Reviewed : Abolitionist Place

Moved to mainspace by Georgeof1001 (talk), Fish and karate (talk), Ritchie333 (talk), and Atsme (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 10:37, 19 February 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New Enough: Y Long Enough: Y

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Y Neutral: Y Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Y

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Y Interesting: Y

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thank you for this very nice, tasteful article. It gives several nods to women, for which we should be appreciative. ALT2 would be rather delicious for 1 April, methinks. But enough of my British humour. I did enjoy the line about the Italians missing the point, though (shut up Storye book). But seriously, this article is fine, and so are Alts 0, 1 and 2. Just one issue: you mention invitations in the header, but you don't mention them in the main text - and you don't explain the invitations, although it is explained in the citation within the header. So if you could add the invitations and the explanation to the main text, all would be well. Thank you again for making me smile. Storye book (talk) 12:04, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

And another thing: The "not pictured" in ALT0 is very funny. Please could I request that if ALT0 is used, that that bit stays? Thank you. Storye book (talk) 12:08, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Storye book, I've reorganised the article slightly. I'm not sure what the "invitations" are referring to (I didn't write that bit), but the source in question says "In addition, people are actually using these days to do something good ... Cake and Cunnilingus Day is aimed at supporting charities that combat prostate cancer." So I've reworded the article to reflect that.

And no problem with the "not pictured" :-) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:21, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

for ALTs 1, 2 and 3 (ALTs 1 and 2 preferred by me, because funnier). Thank you, Ritchie333, for solving the minor issue. Don't forget, ALT 2 would work on 1 April as an alternative to 14 April, so it might be worth entering this nom for both dates. Good to go. Storye book (talk) 12:40, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hopefully the gnomes preparing the preps and queues will spot this comment and respond appropriately. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:54, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I think you're expected to copy your nom into the 1 April area yourself (it's now on another page). To get it listed for another specific date, you have to organise another subheading on the nom page for that date. But leave the nom here as well - so it could end up in 3 places. That's what happened when I did that, anyway. @Yoninah: advice please? Storye book (talk) 13:11, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

I think Yoninah's having a bit of a break. Let me ask Valereee. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:13, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

Hm. I'm actually not sure about a lot of this. Noms can't move to dates, except I think they can to April Fool's. We don't want it in two or three places, surely? Sorry for the runaround, but I'm going to ping BlueMoonset whose knowledge of DYK is encyclopedic. —valereee (talk) 13:25, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

If you want this to run on April Fools' Day, then the nomination transclusion should move to the April Fools' page from the Approved page. Right now, this is not eligible to run on April 14, which is over six weeks away—special occasion nominations are limited to six weeks in advance of the date. However, if this doesn't run on April 1, for whatever reason, it can be repurposed for April 14 at that time, and moved to the special occasions section of the Approved page (which is what I think Storye book meant). However, it is a move: nomination transclusions should not be left in place, but moved to the proper location. BlueMoonset (talk) 15:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC)

ALT2 on 1 April works for me. Who's suppose to do the move? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:53, 19 February 2021 (UTC)