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Rifles, once more

This is not stale, not even a wee bit.

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I see you've used your surgical scalpel (more like wholesale blowing up) on that article before... Time for something other than just keeping it on watchlist? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 00:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Shamelessly appending an entirely unrelated thing: Special:Contributions/WanderingEskimo (SPA, Covid, immediate tendentious restoration of material removed by plenty of others on that talk page of a redirect). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:02, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- CU blocked now. Do me a favor and file a new pro forma SPI, and ping Maxim from there--they might have an interest, given they ran a check on a range earlier. Drmies (talk) 03:50, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
  - Will do. Thanks. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:54, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

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There's also something on an entirely different matter, a wee bit stale from a few days back, but not too important. Hopefully the newer one didn't bounce like DFO. Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 03:48, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Since the SPI for the other one is in progress; I'll add Special:Contributions/Spyreguy; who seems to have a strong proclivity to cite the WSJ despite the repeated explanations about MEDRS... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 01:46, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
- zzuuzz, I can't make sense of what I'm seeing--how the account was created, what else is there, the really really old accounts that are there... Can you help? Drmies (talk) 01:53, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
  - I did LOL. That was a robot-ized mass account compromise attempt, on a scale I don't think I've seen before. Hopefully my recent logs will provide more information, or if you want to know the magic involved drop me an email. I think I've cleared up this little lot, but I'll obviously now have to look further into whatever you and they were talking about before. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 07:25, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
    - zzuuzz, you should be on payroll. Drmies (talk) 15:10, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
    - @Zzuuzz: Thanks! Any opinion on Talk:Investigations_into_the_origin_of_COVID-19#This_article_is_propaganda; where one editor keeps accusing some of us of, and I quote, "this article and its editors continue to run interference for the CCP"? This reminds me of both the now blocked sock and of Special:Contributions/Dinglelingy... Though to be fair anything that looks like an SPA and goes in the COVID pages is immediately suspicious (ex. Special:Contributions/68.148.28.136, even if I can't link it to absolutely anything else)... Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 14:33, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
      - Compromised or just a sleeper (created February last year)? Special:Contributions/CatDamon whose sole edit is to concur with another editor's accusations... Hopefully we don't need protection for the talk pages. Or I'm just being too cynical and seeing ghosts. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 17:45, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
        The account histories will be a useful thing to keep an eye on... but I think (as well as probably some socks) there are probably some different people. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 18:04, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
        @Zzuuzz: Yes, indeed. You aware of that AN thread where there was reports of explicit off-wiki (Twitter) canvassing? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 18:08, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
        No, but that sounds about right to me. I'm still catching up on this topic (having already reviewed the SPI), plus I have a metric tonne of compromised accounts to sift through. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 18:13, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
        Eh, you're welcome? ... Drmies (talk) 21:56, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
I've seen this table before, right? This is clear evidence that this new editor is either a sock or a canvassed editor... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:33, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- Well, tell me who you think they're a sock of, and I'll look further into it. A MEAT or NOTHERE block is a possibility. Drmies (talk) 21:09, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
  - The natural guess would be this one but with all the unrelated results I'm not quite confident it's that one in particular. I'm 100% sure I've seen that page (or something very similar) before, though, I just can't seem to remember who it was, and it appears to have been deleted at some point since an "insource" search for some phrases from there doesn't yield anything but that page. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:26, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
Now service rifles, for real: List of service rifles by country. Could be A10 to List of rifles. Or maybe it is a valid split. Anyway, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 20:21, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- "List of..." is the tried and true way of getting shit content into Wikipedia or keeping it in. One wishes that User:JoePhin had followed the guidelines in Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia--perhaps they'll have a look at WP:RIA. Asking for proper, reliable, secondary sourcing is too much to ask, I think, and that's the hallmark of such articles. Drmies (talk) 21:25, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
- I think what bothers me even more than the terrible quality of that content is the blatant machismo of it, the gun fetishism. It confirms some of the worst stereotypes about Wikipedia. I mean, American Girl is bad too, but these guns are in thousands of articles, including ALL THOSE articles listing all the military equipment of all the countries in the world. And of their armed forces, and the branches. I mean, Sweden isn't even the worst offender, with List of equipment of the Swedish Army, Military equipment of Sweden during the Cold War, Military equipment of Sweden during World War II, List of military aircraft of Sweden, Swedish Air Force weapons, Swedish_Navy#Equipment, Home_Guard_(Sweden)#Equipment. Q: how do you know it's cruft? A: if it has pictures of guns and little flag icons of the manufacturers. (Which is another thing that irritates me: weapons represent their countries the way athletes do at the Olympics?) Drmies (talk) 21:47, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
  - Well at the very least List of service rifles by country spares us the FLAGFARM... But hey it's unlikely to get deleted at AfD (even stuff like this didn't, so...) so better get frustrated at something else? RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:55, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Furniture, eh!

And this is a bus stop. Mind you, we have long since established that Drmies swum to skool, and did not take the bus.

What we do, M. Canadian, is lure Doktoro in with bacon, and then hit xem with a bus stop, otherwise xe goes off and improves the Jada Facer article again.

Uncle G (talk) 08:01, 25 March 2021 (UTC)

Holy moly, Uncle, you've been busy. But all this will have to wait a little bit--spring break and all that, you know. Take care, Drmies (talk) 15:22, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
- M. Canadian might know why Julian Ruggles Seavey went to a Normal School. Uncle G (talk) 00:52, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
- Although I suspect that M. Canadian did not know that Frederick S. Barnjum was a P.E. teacher. Uncle G (talk) 18:41, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
- M. Canadian would be excused for not knowing Bernier the Lumberman's name. Uncle G (talk) 18:58, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Jacques and Hay was a 19th century furniture manufacturer in Toronto, in 1872 to be re-named Robert Hay and Company and later still to become Charles Rogers and Sons Company.^[1] In its heyday it was colloquially known as "jakesenhay".^[2]

Co-founded in 1835 by John Jacques (then a journeyman cabinetmaker from England) and Robert Hay (a journeyman cabinetmaker from Scotland),^[3]^[1]^[4] originally the company started as just one small shop in Toronto, which Jacques and Hay had bought from Jacques' then boss, William Maxwell;^[4] but it expanded over the next several decades, in keeping with a regional boom in furniture manufacturing in the middle of the 19th century.^[1] The firm had a large plant in Toronto by the 1850s, which had an annual production of (amongst other things) 1,000 beds and 15,000 Windsor chairs, which were sold by outlets in several towns in the province of Ontario that the firm opened that decade.^[1] At the same time, the company had expanded its supply of raw materials with a timber plant at New Lowell (now part of the town of Clearview) and had industrialized its manufacturing at the Toronto factory to include multiple steam powered machines, including a jig saw, a belt sander, power planers, a multiple-drilling machine, a moulding machine, and twenty circular saws.^[1] It was the largest factory of its kind in British America in 1864.^[5]

The firm was by that time also employing marketing tactics such as manufacturing bespoke furniture for Albert Edward, the then Prince of Wales, and his retinue on his 1860 royal tour of several cities in the province.^[1] These marketing stunts proved to be ineffectual in the longer term, however.^[1] The firm lacked product catalogues, faced competition from other firms with lower production costs (such as not needing to ship lumber by rail from New Lowell to Toronto), and after that initial burst of mechanization in the 1850s failed to keep up with further advances in machinery from the 1860s onwards.^[6]

The firm changed to Robert Hay and Company in 1872 when Jacques retired, Charles Rogers and George Craig then becoming partners with Hay.^[7] Rogers, born in Glasgow in 1816, had immigrated to Canada in 1851, joining the firm as a carver; and Craig, also born in Glasgow but in 1819, had earlier immigrated to Canada in 1842 and joined the firm as a machinist.^[7]

Eventually, as Charles Rogers and Sons Company, the firm dissolved in 1922.^[8]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g Forster 1996, p. 163.
^ Bloomfield & Bloomfield 1987.
^ Johnson 1968, p. 263.
^ ^a ^b Kealey 1991, p. 19.
^ Lerner & Williamson 1991, p. 291.
^ Forster 1996, pp. 163–164.
^ ^a ^b Robinson 1885, p. 385.
^ Forster 1996, pp. 164.

Reference bibliography

Forster, Ben (1996). "Finding the right size: Markets and competition in mid- and late- nineteenth-century Ontario". In Hall, Roger; Westfall, William; Sefton MacDowell, Laurel (eds.). Patterns of the Past: Interpreting Ontario's History. Dundurn. ISBN 9781554882649.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Lerner, Loren Ruth; Williamson, Mary F. (1991). Art Et Architecture Au Canada. Art and Architecture in Canada: A Bibliography and Guide to the Literature to 1981. 1. University of Toronto Press. ISBN 9780802058560.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Robinson, C. Blackett (1885). History of Toronto and County of York, Ontario: pt. 1. Toronto: C. Blackett Robinson.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Johnson, J. Keith, ed. (1968). "Hay, Robert". The Canadian Directory of Parliament, 1867–1967. Queen's Printer.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Kealey, Gregory S. (1991). "Toronto's industrial revolution". Toronto Workers Respond to Industrial Capitalism, 1867–1892. Reprints in Canadian history. 247. University of Toronto Press. ISBN 9780802068835.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Bloomfield, Elizabeth; Bloomfield, Gerald (1987-01-01). "Mills, Factories and Craftshops of Ontario, 1870: A Machine-Readable Source for Material Historians". Material Culture Review. 25.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)

References

^ Lyon Endicott 2012, p. 210.
^ Bart-Riedstra 2002, p. 77.
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e Bart-Riedstra 2002, p. 78.
^ ^a ^b Walker 2001, p. 67��68.
^ Melady 2013, p. 175.
^ Walker 2001, p. 67.
^ Melady 2013, p. 176.

Reference bibliography

Lyon Endicott, Stephen (2012). Raising the Workers' Flag: The Workers' Unity League of Canada, 1930–1936. University of Toronto Press. ISBN 9781442612266.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Bart-Riedstra, Carolynn (2002). Stratford. Arcadia Publishing. ISBN 9780738511481.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Walker, Craig Stewart (2001). "James Reaney: Metamorphic masks". The Buried Astrolabe: Canadian Dramatic Imagination and Western Tradition. McGill-Queen's University Press. ISBN 9780773520752.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Melady, John (2013). "Tom Patterson: Saving a town with culture". Breakthrough!: Canada's Greatest Inventions and Innovations. Dundurn. ISBN 9781459708532.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)

Wine, but no bacon

Doktoro, you lost a bunch of stuff in Special:Diff/1014753071. I've put this back. Gerda Arendt has put xyr comment back, too. Uncle G (talk) 08:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

The Escalle region of (what is now) Larkspur, California takes its name from Jean Escalle, a 19th century French immigrant and vintner whose name was given to many things in the area before it was incorporated into Larkspur, including the local railway station, and a vineyard, quarry, resort, and brickworks that he owned. The site of the buildings that remain from the original estate is a class H historic zone.^[1]

With his brother Pierre, Jean Escalle immigrated to Larkspur in 1881 from France, to join his friend and fellow French immigrant Claude Callot in operating a brickworks.^[2]^[3] Callot had been operating the brickworks since 1874, having leased it from a Patrick King that year and then outright bought it in 1879; and in the year of the arrival of the Escalles they together built a house, a barn, a water-tank, and a winery on Callot's property.^[4] Escalle married Callot's widow Ellen after Callott's death in 1888, expanding from running the brickworks into also running an inn, named the Limerick Inn and opened in 1894 next to the house.^[5]^[6]^[7] There he sold wine from grapes grown in a 23 acres (9.3 hectares) vineyard expanded from the original, which by that time was producing 23,000 US gallons (870 hL) of wine per year.^[8]^[9]

The Limerick Inn was a part of the area becoming a resort, with its bocce ball court and gardens; to which customers would travel by railway or buggy.^[9] The local railway station came to be known as Escalle.^[2]

Because of Prohibition, the inn ceased selling wine in 1920.^[10] Escalle also died that year, causing legal complications to ensue from his relatives in France that effectively left the entire estate in limbo for the next two decades.^[10] Adolph A. Tiscornia, an attorney and investor who acquired a significant fraction of Larkspur over the years, eventually bought Escalle in 1941, after the legal complications were finally resolved, and in 1978 Escalle Village was built.^[11]

In the 21st century, the original estate buildings still remain, most of Tiscornia's other property having been sold by Tiscornia's granddaughter Mary, including the barn, the water tank, and the winery, which retains its original Italianate false front with "Escalle's" and "1888" on the upper storey and its original brick lower floor and wood upper floor.^[12] The additional signage "Corte Madeira Vineyard and Winery" that existed in Escalle's lifetime is, however, no longer present, and various additions have been made to the winery that are not visible from the front; as well as a two-car garage added.^[13] The Limerick Inn was damaged in 1982 by a landslip, and is now mainly a shell albeit one that was stabilized after being threatened by the nearby growth of elm trees in 2003 and redecorated in 2008 for a Centennial celebration.^[14]

References

^ Heitkamp 2010, p. 253.
^ ^a ^b Teather 1986, p. 25, ESCALLE'S.
^ Arrigoni 2000, p. 131.
^ Heitkamp 2010, pp. 248,356.
^ Teather 1986, ESCALLE'S.
^ Heitkamp 2010, p. 355.
^ Heitkamp 2010, pp. 18,248–249.
^ Mason & Van Cleave Park 1975, p. 90.
^ ^a ^b Heitkamp 2010, pp. 249.
^ ^a ^b Heitkamp 2010, pp. 250.
^ Heitkamp 2010, pp. 250,355,358.
^ Heitkamp 2010, pp. 248,252, Epilogue.
^ Heitkamp 2010, p. 252.
^ Heitkamp 2010, pp. 252–253.

Reference bibliography

Teather, Louise (1986). Place Names of Marin: Where Did They Come From?. Scottwall Associates. ISBN 9780961279080.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Arrigoni, Patricia (2000). Carroll, Dana (ed.). Making the Most of Marin: A California Guide. Travel Publishers International. ISBN 9780962546877.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Mason, Jack; Van Cleave Park, Helen (1975). The Making of Marin (1850–1975). North Shore Books.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)
Heitkamp, Helen (2010). Larkspur Past and Present. Larkspur Heritage Preservation Board. ISBN 9780615395128.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)

Did you know …

… that Adolph A. Tiscornia's obituary in one newspaper gave him the titles "King of Kearny Street, Earl of the Eyesore" because of how he let his properties in Larkspur, California run down?
- "Adolph Tiscornia, King of Kearny St., is Dead". The San Francisco Examiner. 1967-01-10. p. 42.
… that Adolph A. Tiscornia's estate once chopped the top off the Little King without permission?
- "Emergency Meeting set in Larkspur". Daily Independent Journal. San Rafael, California. 1972-05-12. p. 1.

Uncle G (talk) 08:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

… and no pineapple

This is not corned beef, Doktoro.

I will probably laugh quite hard if fortuitously you end up closing Pineapple cheesecake (AfD discussion) too.

In the meantime, you might enjoy Edgar "Eddie" Ray Woolbright's old restaurant. He didn't just help invent Balut (game) (AfD discussion). He knew Imelda Marcos from school and once sent her a note, to his advantage. I don't know whether the restaurant puts pineapple on the corned beef, though.

Bacalso, Jude A. (2017-07-12). "What to eat in Cebu: Corned beef at Eddie's Log Cabin Coffee Shop". Smile.CS1 maint: ref=harv (link)

Uncle G (talk) 10:30, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

Uncle G, I made corned beef last week, with all the spices and the liquid and all that, and I don't care for it. I'll take corned beef from a can with some jerk seasoning on rice, please. Drmies (talk) 13:00, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

Jricaplaza and Shadzarie

Hi Drmies, you may like to have a look at my block of Jricaplaza (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · checkuser (log) · investigate) regarding your block of Shadzarie (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · checkuser (log) · investigate). Thanks in advance! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:21, 3 April 2021 (UTC)

Sorry I forgot about this, ToBeFree--I just confirmed it. Gardo Versace 24 was also on that range. Drmies (talk) 21:35, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Ah, I had already forgotten about it :) Thank you very much and no worries ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:43, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Oh, ToBeFree, the party is not over. I just found another and blocked them, and I turned a range block into a hard block. I'm about to check their other, busiest range--if you're interested, see my log. Thanks again, Drmies (talk) 21:46, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Reasoning behind Ping

I make it short, the reasoning behind my ping was I am still behind hassled by Rusf10 (I was pinged by him). Since I am not allowed to comment on his comments and I have had no contact with him, I asked you and Floquenbeam to kindly ask Rusf10 to do the same. While I am disappointed you are "not interested", I am doing what I said I would and was told. This concludes my reasoning/explanation behind my ping of you. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 02:29 on April 5, 2021 (UTC)

Furniture emergency!

Special:Diff/1015709810

Given your recent edits de-linking furniture, Doktoro, for which you will live in infamy, I have to declare a furniture emergency. Uncle G (talk) 21:33, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

I can live with that. I mean, I already do. Did you retire recently? Does that explain this deluge of furniture and engineers and bricks? Drmies (talk) 15:48, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

One of 300 plans from Radford 1912

William A. Radford was a prolific author of architectural and construction books via his company the Radford Architectural Company in Chicago, Illinois.

Early life

Radford was born in Oshkosh, Wisconsin in 1865, where he attended school and then joined the Radford Brothers Sash and Door Company, eventually in 1890 becoming the company secretary and treasurer.^[1] He married and had two sons with Helen M. Manuel, and by 1899 was living in Riverside, Illinois.^[1] He was a Mason and a Shriner.^[1]

Radford Architectural Company

It was the Radford Architectural Company for which he is remembered, whose output over the years comprised more than 40 books on various types of construction and more than 1000 plans and specifications for buildings ranging from homes to small commercial buildings.^[1] Radford founded this company in 1902, and his publications were collaborations with prominent authors in the field at the time including Frank E. Kidder, Alfred G. King, and Ira O. Baker.^[1] He was also the founder of various magazines: Beautiful Homes, Farm Mechanics, American Carpenter and Builder, and Cement Homes.^[1]

Although, in the opinion of his biographer Neal Vogel, some of his designs were "lackluster versions" of Queen Anne or American Foursquare designs, some of his designs reflect the Prairie School aesthetic and his publications helped to spread it across the United States in the early 20th century.^[2] Radford embraced what were then modern innovations, with books on construction types that were just coming into use such as his 1700-page long 1910 Radford Cyclopedia of Cement Construction which dealt in the use of concrete and whose articles were written by a team of experts on the subject.^[2]

Retirement

Radford retired to a ranch in Cupertino, California at the onset of the Great Depression and died there in 1943.^[2]

A plan for a Lutheran church, also from Radford 1912

Bibliography

Radford, William A. (1910). Radford's Garages and how to Build Them. Chicago: Radford architectural Company.
Radford, William A. (1907). The Steel Square and Its Uses. 1. New York: Industrial Publication Company. (The Steel Square and Its Uses at the Internet Archive)
Radford, William A. (1912). Brick Houses and how to Build Them. Chicago: Radford architectural Company. (Brick Houses and how to Build Them at the Internet Archive)

Cross-reference

^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f Vogel 1993, p. 24.
^ ^a ^b ^c Vogel 1993, p. 25.

Sources

Vogel, Neal (September 1993). "William Radford". Old-House Journal. Vol. 21 no. 5. Active Interest Media. ISSN 0094-0178.

Cross-reference

^ ^a ^b ^c Talbot 1933, p. 18.
^ ^a ^b ChE.
^ ^a ^b IU.
^ ^a ^b Vogel 1993, p. 24.
^ Belanger 1998, p. 13.
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f Meyer 1889, p. 10.
^ ^a ^b Hess 1986, p. 178.

Sources

Talbot, Arthur N. (December 1933). Pask, Joseph A. (ed.). "The College of Engineering". The Technograph. Vol. 48 no. 2. Urbana: Illini Publishing Company.
Vogel, Neal (September 1993). "William Radford". Old-House Journal. Vol. 21 no. 5. Active Interest Media. ISSN 0094-0178.
"Ira O. Baker". Chi Episilon, UIUC Chapter.
"BAKER, IRA OSBORN: 1853–1925". Indiana Authors. Indiana University.
Belanger, Dian Olson (1998). "Engineering: An American Tradition". Enabling American Innovation: Engineering and the National Science Foundation. Purdue University Press. ISBN 9781557531117.
Meyer, Henry C., ed. (1889-12-07). "Baker's Masonry Construction". The Engineering and Building Record and The Sanitary Engineer. Vol. 21 no. 1. New York.
Hess, Jeffrey A. (1986). Historic Highway Bridges in Wisconsin. 1. Wisconsin Department of Transportation.

Did you know …

https://www.kshs.org/resource/national_register/nominationsNRDB/Sedgwick_GuldnerHouseNR.pdf

… by the way, that the Guldner House on the National Register of Historic Places listings in Sedgwick County, Kansas is Radford Design #7082 in William A. Radford's 1908 Radford's Artistic Homes? Uncle G (talk) 01:51, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

The Guldner House in Sedgwick County, Kansas is a Queen Anne style house built to a design by the Radford Architectural Company.^[1]

Cross-reference

^ KHS 1418.

Sources

"Guldner House". National and State Registers of Historic Places. Kansas Historical Society.

Can these be zapped?

Hello D. I hope you and your family are well. I am wondering if some of the edit summaries by this IP on my talk page can be r/d'd as purely disruptive material. Turns out that after I went to sleep they came back here and here but neither of those hit my talk page. Thanks for your time. MarnetteD|Talk 17:23, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, someone really needs to get a date, or a talking-to from mom. Drmies (talk) 17:56, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
BTW, ToBeFree, they're all throwaway IPs; I don't know if there's much point to dropping a two-week block. If you see them coming from the heartland, that might be different. I did yank talk page access, and I think that should be our standard MO. Thanks, and thank you too Ferret, Drmies (talk) 17:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks DM. Much appreciated. MarnetteD|Talk 18:02, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks, reduced to 72 hours; there had been no other contributions before, so collateral damage seemed unlikelier than someone re-misusing the IP address within the next 2 weeks. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:03, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
  - Yeah, they have some technical skills that they are wasting completely on some bullshit, inserting company names in various articles. What a shame. Drmies (talk) 18:15, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5

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Ronald Lee Moore again

Hi Drmies, sorry to bother you again about this; this is a continuation of User_talk:Drmies/Archive_132#Ronald_Lee_Moore. The same user is over at the Ronald Lee Moore article again edit-warring by adding unsourced, WP:Original research to the article, and is trying give undue weight and push a non-neutral POV fan conspiracy theory to the article. Do you have any advice on how to deal with this? The user also went to my talk page to cast aspersions and attack me. Thank you, Some1 (talk) 16:03, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

I see what's happening in the lead; the way it is now strikes me as straddling the line between due and undue for the lead. It's important in that it continues a pattern of ... well, the thing he's known for, but it is true that the content itself is slim. I responded to the editor on your talk page. Drmies (talk) 16:21, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with you; I re-worded the sentence to better summarize the article and remove the undue weight problems the user had presented in the lead; I see that they are satisfied now [1]. If only they had gone to the article talk page first instead of threatening me on my talk page. Anyway, thank you for stepping in and responding, I appreciate it. Some1 (talk) 16:40, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
  - And I think they responded as well as I could have expected, so maybe we'll all be able to get along better. Drmies (talk) 17:19, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Whose sock is this one?

DonKihot1989 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · checkuser (log) · investigate)

My intuitive reaction, given the username pattern and the edited article, would have been to add a new report at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/KızılBörü1071; but this doesn't look like that master: this one is more interested in promoting Serbia than the Ottomans. Unless this KB1071 guy is actually a sock of an even older master... (the username seems to be referring to Revolutions_of_1989#Yugoslavia). Cheers, RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 21:06, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

(Possibly) stale page restrictions

Hi, I was recently doing a review of all the page restrictions I've placed or taken ownership of over the years, and I noticed that a majority of the pages were no longer battlegrounds and didn't require restrictions anymore. I was looking backwards a couple of months on the article history and talk page looking for major diputes, and for the most part things were pretty quiet. I've removed the BRD restrictions from about 70% of the articles that I had put them on, and the 1RR restrictions from probably 90% of pages.

I figured while I was at it I might as well try to track down the other pages with active sanctions and see if the admins who placed them might also be interested in doing a similar review. The following list might not be complete, but it's the best I could come up with by tracking usages of the American Politics AE template. (Perhaps you can compare it to whatever system you have for tracking your active sanctions.) For convenience I'll put links to the edit notice page and the talk page.

Template:Editnotices/Page/Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations - Talk:Donald Trump sexual misconduct allegations

I'm hoping that removing some of these restrictions can help restore some sense of normalcy to the topic area. In any case I hope this list is helpful. ~Awilley (talk) 23:50, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Awilley, thanks for your note, but especially for your diligence. No, I don't do a lot of sanctioning: by all means, do what you think is right and remove any restrictions you think no longer serve a purpose. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 23:54, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll put it on my list of pages to review :-) ~Awilley (talk) 23:59, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Please see the State v. Chauvin article

Hi there, could you put some sort of restrictions on the State v. Chauvin article? Things have been running a little out of hand over there. Thanks, Gandydancer (talk) 03:00, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Well, I think y'all could have done a bit more in terms of reporting and all that. I suppose you were talking about Declanhx, whom I just blocked for edit warring--they reverted three editors who reverted them, so that's pretty clear. I can't tell if their edits are decent at all, but I can tell they were editing against what seems to have been some kind of consensus. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:21, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hi, I ended up here to thank you for the edit warring temp block. Since I'm still learning, what should we have reported earlier? Feel free to take your time or not respond at all. I'm sure you're busy! Firefangledfeathers (talk) 03:29, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
  - Firefangledfeathers, one of the things that could have happened was a ton of warnings on the IP talk page. I see you placed one, but there could have been more (your fellow editors are experienced and should have realized it) for subsequent edits--including this personal attack in the edit summary. So by the time they actually logged into their account (and announced that), you could have reported them at AIV for edit warring, editing against consensus, disruptive editing, etc.; it was a pretty clear case wouldn't even have had to go to WP:ANEW. And I see now that Bagumba made sure to prevent further IP shenanigans--thanks for that, Bagumba. Drmies (talk) 20:43, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
    - I am grateful for your response! Firefangledfeathers (talk) 21:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

These kakapo thank you

	Gratitude of the Kakapo
	These lil birds and I want to thank you for bringing a moment of peace to State v. Chauvin. Firefangledfeathers (talk) 03:35, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

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Puppetteer report

I don't know whether they toured in a bus, Doktoro, or whether they ever went to this bus stop.

Jan Peeters I couldn't get the bus stop in shot, either, and probably wasn't even there.^[1]

Doktoro, your recent focus on owning Donald Trump socks is quite disturbing, and I went looking for some more furniture for you to combat that. Imagine my surprise at finding a puppetteer lurking unbeknownst to all bar one person behind William Simons, a slightly dead person that the puppet creator has cleverly and posthumously arranged for Google to steer everyone towards instead, and William Simmonds, one of those two-sentence mass-created cricket people that are so the rage right now. It's even a shared account, and even more cleverly Google is steering the other person's name to Eva Simons from Gallifrey. Uncle G (talk) 05:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Wait, this William Simmonds? No, this one--but I think you should write up "Ms. World Automaton", who has the additional benefit of not being able to get married and thus losing her crown. As you know, I don't understand cricket or furniture. BTW I did receive that lovely bouquet of flowers you sent me for Vuurbaak van Katwijk aan Zee, and Mrs. Drmies and I both appreciate the box of bonbons--how did you know hazelnut is my favorite? Drmies (talk) 20:56, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Certainly the William Simmonds who was supposed to be linked from User:Magnus Manske/Your Paintings, although I only found about that afterwards. I was looking for furniture carvers for you.
  As for the bus stop, I fully expected at User talk:Drmies/Archive 133#Speedy deletion nomination of User:Drmies/Stavoren lighthouse that you, with your greater access to JSTORrery, Main Beaming, and — indeed! — Gallifreyan museums would be able to do far better than I could. The factoid about that tourist Peeters facing the wrong way and looking out from the bus stop was not enough.
  Although we have discovered that your ISP is hiding things from Eastern Kentucky University from you. That seems like the Scunthorpe problem taken to absurd extremes. I would ask some pointed questions about its WWW filtering if I were you.
  Whitworth Art Gallery (1976). "Peeters, Jan the Elder". Landscape in Flemish and Dutch Drawings of the 17th Century: From the Collections of the Musees Royaux Des Beaux-arts de Belgique, Brussels. University of Manchester.
  Uncle G (talk) 22:45, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
  - I found a few hits for paintings of the Vuurbaak, but they were all snippets. The one I looked into was not a notable painter, and I didn't feel like writing that guy up too. BTW the square in this poor picture, yes--the Vuurbaak was a bit of a problem. Everything around it had been leveled and the Vuurbaak was in the way when they were rebuilding the city after WW2. That odd square, the Vuurbaakplein, apparently was kind of a necessity. Actually, I have inquired about filtering, but to no avail. The last time it was all clogged up with obscenities from a certain banned user, and HR got worried about me being in imminent danger. Drmies (talk) 01:12, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
    - Tell HR that what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Uncle G (talk) 02:54, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

William Simmonds was a 20th century draftsman, artist, craftsman, and — together with his wife Eve Simmonds, a musician and embroiderer — proprietor of a touring puppet theatre, who lived in Gloucestershire and who was part of the Arts and Crafts movement.

Life

Both in 1876, Simmonds studied at the Royal College of Art and went on to exhibit at the Royal Academy from 1903 onwards.^[2] His wife Eve, born in 1884 in Walthamstow as Eve Peart, studied art at The Slade, and they married in 1912.^[3] During World War One, William was a designer, of both tanks and (with Geoffrey de Havilland) aircraft.^[2]^[3]

After living for a time in Fovant, and then London, they moved to Far Oakridge in 1919, where together they ran a puppet theatre.^[2]^[3] The interest in puppets originated in Fovant, where William attending the bedside of his sick father began to carve puppets.^[3] They were later, in the 1920s and 1930s, to take the theatre on tour, performing at various venues around the country including the Grafton Theatre for three weeks per year.^[3]

In Oakridge, Eve became an embroiderer and William participated in a local theatre group, the Oakridge Players.^[3] William also pursued his interest in carving, in both wood and ivory, which he had first taken during the war, habitually carrying around a piece of wood or ivory in his pocket to carve.^[3] On tour with the puppet theatre, William was, as with the local theatre group, a playwright and set designer, whilst Eve supplied the musical accompaniment on the spinet and was the costumer (both designing and making).^[3] William also carved the puppets.^[3]

In the year of William's death, 1968, the Cheltenham Art Gallery held an exhibition of his work, which included carvings, sculptures, paintings, drawings, and book designs.^[2] At that point, he was the oldest member of the Guild of Gloucestershire Craftsmen.^[2] Eve died two years later in 1970.^[3]

Works

Works by William Simmonds can be found in various places.

A 1907 watercolour painting and a 1937 wood-carving are in the Tate Gallery collection.^[2]
A collection of his puppets is in the Gloucester Folk Museum.^[2]
A collection of his carvings and sculptures is in the Gloucester City Museum.^[2]
He carved the rood for the chancel screen in Christ Church, Chalford.^[4]

Cross-reference

^ UM 1976, pp. 20–21.
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h MERL.
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e ^f ^g ^h ⁱ ^j CT.
^ Carruthers, Greensted & Roscoe 2019, p. 312.

Sources

"William Simmonds, 1876–1968". Museum of English Rural Life. University of Reading.
Carruthers, Annette; Greensted, Mary; Roscoe, Barley (2019). Ernest Gimson: Arts & Crafts Designer and Architect. Yale University Press. ISBN 9780300246261.
"William and Eve Simmonds". The Cheltenham Trust.

External links

"sampler by Eve Simmonds". The Wilson Cheltenham Art Gallery and Museum. 1996.51.

This British biographical article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

This submission to Articles for creation needs an SPI case to determine who should be the puppet master at William Simmonds.

It is fortunate that this is the English Professor Vacuum, Doktoro. So there are no English professors around to warn of the dangers of working from the Cliff's Notes rather than reading the book.

Fagence Cooper, Suzanne (2019-12-13). "William Simmonds: The silent heart of the Arts and Crafts movement, by Jessica Douglas-Home". Church Times.
Aslet, Clive (2019). "Craftsman of art". The New Criterion. Vol. 37 no. 7. p. 63.

Uncle G (talk) 05:06, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

@Uncle G: the Doctor's rage here seems to be directed towards service rifles (and "lists of ..."). As for the two sentence directories of non-notable people, see Wikipedia talk:Notability (sports)#RFC on Notability (sports) policy and reliability issues... RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 12:34, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
- Doktoro knows all about robot cricket people I suspect. Doktoro is actually trying to get me to write about guns and bikers for xem right now, in fact, although I am having trouble reading Canadiaian.
  Perhaps we need to get Doktoro onto Wisconsin Cheeseman (AfD discussion), which xe will immediately recognize as 388 F.2d 420, being a former Lord High Pajama.
  Did you know Bernier the Lumberman's name, by the way?
  Uncle G (talk) 18:26, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
  - Re. the name: typical Quebec name; but never heard of him, no. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 23:10, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
    - That's alright. No-one knew for 35 years. Xe was from Maine.
      - Rounds, Leslie; Routhier, Jessica Skwire (2010). ""Bernier the Lumberman": The mystery carver of Biddeford, Maine, identified" (PDF). The Magazine ANTIQUES. pp. 70–72.
    - Uncle G (talk) 00:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Removal of ext links in Ritu Beri

You removed external links from Ritu Beri in 2018, and the comment said "rm improperly verified". What verification does this refer to? Jay (talk) 06:23, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi. I mostly removed supposed awards that did not have proper secondary reliable verification. The links were in violation of WP:EL. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 14:03, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
- Just for reference, which point of WP:EL? Jay (talk) 16:27, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
  - Well, look at ELYES--the two links are for interviews (and one is dead). Item 3 can allow an interview transcript, but if this interview is to add anything worthwhile, it should be used as a reference in the text to prove some point. An interview transcript would have to offer something special, more than a few factoids, in order to be a valid link--otherwise we can just start adding everything. One could imagine an interview transcript to be reasonably linked in Nixon interviews, for instance. Drmies (talk) 20:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Problem

Hello, I ran into some incivility issues with another editor here and specifically this and this and a quick search showed that you had recently blocked the editor a few months ago for similar behavior. I have no desire or interest in responding further on that AfD, but after looking at their previous AN/ANI...fustercluck, I suppose is the only description, I am concerned that this is a chronic behavior problem with this editor. I don't know if I should report this to ANI (or how to do so)? Or report it to you as the last person who blocked them?

I had considered commenting on their talk page, to tell them about a time I almost responded very uncivily to another editor and how I found a better way to express myself, but that was before I saw their previous case (and the ones before that) and their block, and learned that this was not just a one-time misunderstanding or loss of perspective. I am perfectly willing (EAGER) to just drop this and never see that editor's name again, but this looks like chronic, toxic behavior and I'd feel bad if they wind up harassing other editors after I chose to say nothing. I'm sorry to bother you, and feel free to delete this and tell me if it was inappropriate for me to bring it up. Hyperion35 (talk) 21:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Hmm. OK I see that these are not very civil comments, and they still have a tendency to be irritatingly verbose, but I can't go and block someone for one or two comments. What you can do is place a warning template on their talk page, or you can leave a note there, if only as a record in case there's more such warnings and an admin takes an interest in it. If there's more, that's a different thing, and then it can become a matter for ANI or AN. Sorry but that's the best I can say right now. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 00:42, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Abdallah Oumbadougou

On 13 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Abdallah Oumbadougou, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Abdallah Oumbadougou, the "godfather of all the present-day Tuareg musicians in Niger", distributed illegal cassette tapes of banned ishumar music while in exile from 1984 to 1995? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Abdallah Oumbadougou. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Abdallah Oumbadougou), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

It's important to have chicken in the history books, eh!

That reminds me, you want me to write about the motorcycles at Stratford General Strike of 1933. They were tracked carriers, of course. I believe that Zaphod Gearbox knows about motorcycles. Unfortunately, I have no idea what you want me to write about guns at Boozefighters (AfD discussion). Uncle G (talk) 07:00, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
Enjoy the chickens and butter. Uncle G (talk) 06:50, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
Note that "Hepburn's Huzzars" are already at Oshawa#Strike: 1937, although a main article is probably possible, as your mate Irv has written at some length on the subject. You'll need M. Canadian, though, to translate the Candiaian on the WWW page and find some history books about the Oshawa strike of 1937 that aren't by your mate Irv.
- Abella, Irving (2006-02-07). "Oshwa Strike". The Canadian Encyclopaedia.
- Abella, Irving (1974). "Oshawa 1937". In Abella, Irving (ed.). On Strike: Six Key Labour Struggles in Canada 1919–1949. James Lorimer & Company. ISBN 9780888620576.
- Pendergest, James Alexander (1973). Labour and Politics in Oshawa and District, 1928–1943 (MA thesis). Queen's University.
- Sefton MacDowell, Laurel (1993). "After the Strike — Labour Relations in Oshawa, 1937–1939". Relations Industrielles. 48 (4): 691–711. JSTOR 23073975.
But enjoy the chickens and butter nonetheless. Uncle G (talk) 07:34, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks. I haven't heard from M. Canadian in a while; I'll see what he's up to. He's been moving and grooving. Drmies (talk) 14:21, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in DS Consultation

Hi Drmies. I'm not sure if you're aware of the current community consultation around Discretionary Sanctions but as someone who has participated in DS related activities recently I'd like to invite you to participate. You have the opportunity to participate at whatever level you wish; there are questions that are higher level (theoreticaly) in scope as well as opportunities to give feedback about specific areas of DS. The consultation will run through April 25th and I hope you'll participate. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:29, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Are you serving drinks? I hear you make a mean Old-Fashioned. Drmies (talk) 15:54, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

IP editor, possible sock?

Drmies, An these IPs of of Romania have been used by an editor who has become very active on several topics where pop-culture and politics are intersecting. The IP editor seems very familiar with editing procedures and talk page processes. This makes me think this probably isn't a new user. I'm also wondering about why an editor who is in Romania would be interested in topics like the removal of Civil War statues in the south. They are very interested with Gina Carano. Some of their edits are iffy in terms of civility, in particular being very quick to accuse sources of being far/alt right which appears to be based on opinion vs presented evidence. [[2]] [[3]]. The behavior reminds me of IHateAccounts [[4]] and the 27Jan timing aligns with the block of IHA.

[[5]] 46.97.170.19 17Feb - 12Mar

[[6]] 46.97.170.253 30Jan - 15Feb

[[7]] 46.97.170.112 - 19Mar - current

[[8]] 213.233.88.151 27Jan - 2Feb

Anyway, I wanted to put this on your radar. Thanks for the efforts on in this area! Springee (talk) 15:42, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm looking into it (blocked one sock account already), but tell me you didn't mark Ta-Nehisi Coates as a comic author. The Water Dancer is a fantastic book, and Between the World and Me is quite important. Anyway, I don't see the Southern statues thing in the history/interest of IhateAccounts or that Anonymous Skeptic... Drmies (talk) 16:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
No, I'm sorry, there is nothing there. And if you look at 46.97.170.0/24 you'll see they seem to go back to May 2020, with edits on US politics, race, gender. As for sources etc., I can't judge that, not right now anyway. Drmies (talk) 16:12, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Coates was the author of the issue of a Cpt America comic that appears to reference Jordan Peterson so in context, yes, a comic book author (I'm taking on faith he was the author in question). I wasn't certain about the IHA connection. The time stamps don't seem to line up that well as the IP editor seems to have, at least recently, a very narrow window. What I was actually thinking of is the rather aggressively negative way both the IP and IHA described people, things on the right that they disagreed with. This aggressiveness also applied to editors in a few cases about other editors such as this one [[9]]. Anyway, I would have trouble believing they weren't editing with some prior account. I think our only overlaps are the Peterson talk page and I noticed one comment with respect to Kyle Rittenhouse [[10]]. Regardless, I figured your sock spidey sense was more sensitive than mine. Thanks for taking a look. Springee (talk) 17:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  - Well, I'm sure they are not just an IP editor, but I don't know who they might be, and I can assure you they are not socking currently--so they're OK in my book. Go read some Coates--it's good for you. Take care, Drmies (talk) 00:07, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

How in the world...

...did you find this script? I wrote it, what, 10 minutes ago? Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 16:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I'm clairvoyant, dude. What's odd, though, is I can't understand a single word of it. I thought of you a few weeks ago; I was watching a documentary about a Mongolian place and tribe and thought back of the good old days when the world was young, Trump was still just a TV person, and we worked on shamanism. Drmies (talk) 17:11, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
- Hah, that's funny, I actually got a notification about that article not too long ago. The world certainly has gotten more...complicated since then (or, I suppose what's more likely, its complications have become more visible to those who might not be experiencing them directly), but you know, there's actually a lot of good things that have happened to me since then too, and all in all, I don't think I would go back if I had the chance. I definitely look back at those times with some fond nostalgia, though. I hope you and your bubble are all doing as well as can be under the circumstances; we're doing the best we can over here, too. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 17:22, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
  - I thought about M. CripesIts1942 when writing Escalle, Larkspur, California, the other day. It could do with one of xyr photographs, in fact two as there's the station as well. A rather longer drive, though, I suspect.
    However, you can always help Drmies out with more furniture, eh! I found a puppetteer above, but am hoping that that is an aberration.
    Uncle G (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

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User:Pkeets - now that his topic ban is over

He wants us to rule that CNN is not a reliable source, because: Project Veritas says so! See Wikipedia talk:Reliable sources.

Truly, it is to laugh. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:56, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

So that topic ban needs extension? Resuming disruptive behaviour right after previous sanctions expire is clearly sign they've either not got the memo, or they were never intent on actually following the advice given to them. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 15:06, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

Orange Mike, I think that's ridiculous enough to warrant some action. There are two options here: I single-handedly re-apply a topic ban, possibly an indefinite one, from AP territory. Or, and since I don't want to do the first one we'll do this: we take it to AE. I think it was Black Kite who said, in the last discussion, that this was really a matter for AE, so let's do that. And let's throw in this, for which "forum post" is really a euphemism, and [Wikipedia_talk:Reliable_sources#Washington_Post_and_CNN this] "discussion" at RSN: this comment, the last in the thread, by Masem indicates to which extent their original "question" was just, well, really, trolling: throw some shit on the fire and see if it explodes. I thought I was being positive with the three-month topic ban; it hasn't worked. Drmies (talk) 15:29, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

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[FOOTNOTEBloomfieldBloomfield1987-2] Bloomfield & Bloomfield 1987.

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[FOOTNOTEHeitkamp2010248,252Epilogue-27] Heitkamp 2010, pp. 248,252, Epilogue.

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Speedy deletion nomination of Iqra Quraishi

Puppetteer report

Life

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Sources

Further reading

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Removal of ext links in Ritu Beri

Problem

DYK for Abdallah Oumbadougou

Invitation to participate in DS Consultation

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