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You removed @maskchievous from the examples? Most of the examples are banned or locked and so are pointless as examples, so I put that one one as it was a working example and a good example as it has automated tweets that regularly randomly tweet a meme with random emoticons, also it regularly changed its profile avi.
- As stated in the edit description, it's only citation was to itself. I believe this violates Wikipedia:Verifiability#Self-published_or_questionable_sources_as_sources_on_themselves. --audiodude (talk) 19:48, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
People look at that page and go to the Twitter bots and find that most of the bots don't exist. So you see why i added some, and it's better for the page that there is some working examples, the examples section is pointless otherwise HardeeHar (talk) 20:01, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- I believe that all of the examples should be discussed in reliable third party sources, as is the general policy of Wikipedia, or else the page would devolve into a bunch of people just listing some bot that they made that doesn't pass notability standards (as it has tended to do in the past). As for bots being suspended/blocked/no longer active, that is a separate discussion that's worth having. Perhaps we can split the list into "Current" and "Past Bots" sections. Also can we please move this discussion off my talk page and on to the article's talk page? Thank you. --audiodude (talk) 20:08, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Regards using just a link, it is ok, there are exceptions, in certain circumstances (such as in this case) its ok; I'll give you an example and you'll understand what I mean. Take the britney Spears wiki page, there's a link to her website, there's no citation, just a link to the source, link to the website. Another example is the Boulder City wiki page, there's a link to boulder city's website, again there's no citation, just a link to the website.
It sounds like you're making excuses to remove examples of bots; you admit that you don't like the thought of someone adding their own bot. But It's not relevant whether it's their bot or not if it was added because it's a good example of a bot and it make the wiki page better. Seems like you singled out that example and removed it bacause you think it's my Twitter account, which if that's the case then you're guilty of malicious editing. essentially of vandalism and will be reported accordingly. HardeeHar (talk) 23:43, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
- Lots of wiki pages have links to the website of the topic being discussed. However, those shouldn't and likely aren't the only source for the material in the article. Every piece of information on Wikipedia has to be backed up by reliable, third-party sources WP:CITE. The twitter page of a twitter bot is not such a source. I don't know if that bot is yours or not, but if it is, there are also Wikipedia:WHYN which states that "we require at least one secondary source". Regardless of the validity of the link, it is a primary source, not a secondary one. --audiodude (talk) 02:06, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
You're wrong, the content I put on was overseen and approved by an admin. You overruled an admin! You didn't careless that the content was approved by an admin nor that the content bettered the wiki page, nor that the content had been there a year, you maliciously removed content for your own spiteful reasons. You did vandalism!
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Vandalism/targeted hatrrassmentharrasent. theinstantmatrix (talk) 01:30, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Question about testing new Assessment bot, Third generation
Greetings (audiodude—Kelson—Walkerma) - For our Thursday weekly meeting on WP 1.0 bot - Third generation, Walkerma & I discussed status of new bot. Can it be tested for Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism as we discussed? Is this a patch to existing bot, or completely new?
This Sat-Sun. is ending of DaylightSavingTime so would next week be a good time to test? Most days I'm able to be on Wikipedia a couple hours in morning & again 1 pm to 5 pm (CentralTime) afternoons + weekend random hours. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 20:09, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Nov. 8 update
Greetings (audiodude—Kelson—Walkerma) - When Walkerma & I conversed on Jitsi today, he mentioned that for the test of replacement bot it runs slow. Could that be just the Test environment vs Production? For many years (before retirement) I was "Computer Operations Specialist", meaning "many hats" at a small business. Computer jobs ran for testing were always in a smaller box & purposely restricted to give priority to online interactive stuff.
At User:CleanupWorklistBot is a page for bot that generates weekly article cleanup listings for WikiProjects. Don't know if this has any value for WP1.0bot ideas.
Audiodude, if you could send me link to bot source being developed I would be willing to at least look it over - and I promise not to update anything. :-)
- Hi @JoeHebda:! I'm really sorry that I haven't been able to make the meetings the past couple of weeks. Yes, the current problem has to do with the new bot being too slow. It's not a matter of test versus production environment, because I'm actually developing the bot in the production environment (which is a bit crazy, yes) in order to have access to live Wikipedia data.
- The source for the new bot is [here]. It uses SQLAlchemy, an Object-relational_mapping tool that might be the source of the slowdown. It's designed to make working with the database easier but may be causing lots of objects to be created in memory which makes things slow. Cheers, audiodude (talk) 23:15, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Audiodude: - I see that SQLAlchemy has a new release Oct. 31. Would that help or are you already on that release? JoeHebda (talk) 00:29, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
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Nov. 16 update
Update for (audiodude—Kelson—Walkerma) - Today I found Category:Wikipedia bots with Python source code published and wondering if any of these would be helpful? For example, User:WugBot which updates Wikipedia:Good article nominations/Report has some interesting date/time code. Source is at here, has a good amount of comments explaining processing. JoeHebda (talk) 11:10, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
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About your username
- Hi @Masumrezarock100:. This username, like most, is very old but basically yes, I like listening to music. I also like writing songs and producing my own music. You can see some of my work at https://dangerthirdrail.com and https://songs.travisbriggs.com audiodude (talk) 17:46, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps you've corrected this, but, some of your earlier messages used "it's" as a possessive apostrophe. You have now clicked on the link, so you now know that this is not popular. Please don't do it again! Thank you. MPS1992 (talk) 05:50, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
issue - will email JarrahTree 13:10, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
enwp10 tool is Broken--Gave Your Name to Contact
The various wikiprojects which use the enwp10 tool you are listed as maintaining are unable to view their assessment statistics. I in particular am using it to go through a 500-article backlog for Wikiproject:Biology that I want to get done as soon as possible.
If you know anything about this issue and/or when or how it might be fixed, I would appreciate the information very much.
- Hi @Prometheus720: -- Thanks for the heads up on this. I've restarted the tool and it seems to be working now. Not sure why it needed to be restarted. Thanks again! audiodude (talk) 20:02, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- Greetings Audiodude and @Prometheus720: -- For several years that enwp10 tool has the same issue, namely it stops running. Often monthly, & sometimes weekly. It has to be manually restarted by Audiodude because there is no "Restart" button for us editors to get it running again. On the "wish-list" for the new bot is a request for "enwp10" to send out error message or email when it stops or has an error. Unfortunately these fixes/improvements may be years in the waiting. That's why I've moved on to other Wikipedia interests instead of being frustrated... Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 22:23, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Audiodude: Then in lieu of an automated error message, would you mind updating the error page that I linked in order to send people to your talk page here on Wikipedia? I didn't understand that site or what it was for, or that I could just contact the same username on Wikipedia proper. It took me two days to figure it out. For newer editors like me, it could be hard to figure out what to do. By the way, thanks @JoeHebda: for the background info. Prometheus720 (talk) 02:20, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Prometheus720: It's not a matter of "the web app gets into a known error state". It's more like "the web app crashes randomly". I'll look into updating the error page, but I'm not sure it's possible since it's a shared box. Do you remember what the error code was? Was it 503? audiodude (talk) 02:23, 19 April 2019 (UTC
- @Audiodude: Yes, it was definitely 503. I also want to note that when I do a large editing session (say 100 articles rated) it is quite slow to update. In some cases it has taken 2 days to notice that I have actually gone over a chunk of articles. I'm not sure if there is any connection at all to that or not, though.
- @Prometheus720: It must have been 502, because for 503 (the app is actually down), the toolforge server serves this page: https://i.imgur.com/TwWqASR.png . When the app is hung randomly (note that I said crashed randomly before but really the problem is that it's hanging and not crashing, if it was crashing you'd see the page I screenshotted), it just takes forever and returns a 502. I've tried adding a custom lighttpd 502 page, but not sure if we'll see it until the next time this happens. Regarding the updates taking a while, the "data update" job only runs once per day, and the "data upload" job runs 12 hours after that. So it is definitely possible that when you make edits, it might feel like a few days has passed before you see your work reflected. audiodude (talk) 02:41, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
enwp10 is broken again
- @Reyk: I gave it a kick and it looks like it's working again. Thanks for the notice! audiodude (talk) 22:17, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
- @Audiodude: - Stuck again. Click on table link & it just hangs. Please kick it again. JoeHebda (talk) 14:54, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, it is now working. A suggestion - since the enwp10 seems to (lockup/crash/stop running) on a random timeline, how about setting up a weekly or monthly job that stops it, shuts it down, then restarts? Then it would just be a preventative thing to insure it runs smoothly going forward. JoeHebda (talk) 15:52, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
- I'm hesitant to invest any time in the old web tool when we are preparing to replace it with the new version. It's also not clear that restarting it on a cron job would be possible. If it locks up again, just post here on my talk page or email me directly at audiodude (a-t) gmail.com. audiodude (talk) 21:35, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
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enwp10 is broken 12 December 2019
Greetings, Instead of running enwp10 bot gives Error: 503 Service Unavailable. It looks more serious than just restarting. When I reported on bots Noticeboard yesterday, they referenced phabricator, ticket: phab:T207877. Regards, JoeHebda (talk) 15:04, 14 December 2019 (UTC)