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I read statements like "This affiliation might eventually aim at a commonwealth or federation of Spanish-speaking states headed by Spain" and it is not clear to me whether there are still people who adhere to this ideology or if it a historic artifact. I thought this was part of the Franco regime but this article reads as if Falangists are still active. Can anyone offer any historic context and geographic context?
Where and when did this ideology develop? Is it limited to Spain or is it held by political parties in other countries? Does it still exist in Spain? Or did it die when Franco did? 220.127.116.11 (talk) 20:50, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
- I'm part Spaniard and have studied falangism. The party you linked is the original spirit of falangism (fascist authoritarianism) not the falangism that fizzled out when Franco died. Under Franco the ideals became a lot more of a case of classic right-wing authoritarianism and I'd make a case that both he and Salazar were not evil dictators - they hold an important role in the history of my people. The ideology developed in reaction to the weakness of the Spanish republic and overthrow of the monarchy - anarchists, socialists and communists sparked the Spanish civil war and tried to tear Spain apart. Franco in a military coup took control of the situation, imprisoned and killed many of the aggressors, and rolled back the weaknesses of the Spanish Republic. Kazuok (talk) 04:13, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Meaning of "Falange"?
Conservatism Sidebar in lieu of fascism - A case for it.
Falangism under Franco transitioned from a largely fascist ideology to a more conservative authoritarian state. As a person whose studied Falangism and admires some of its conservative merits I think that it really stands that calling Falangism (and Franco) fascists is a biased setup and that we should replace it with conservatism sidebar.
Failing that, I can make an authoritarianism/autocracy sidebar (if it doesn't already exist) and add that in. Either way, calling and linking Falangism with fascism is a bias, and violates NPOV. Kazuok (talk) 04:14, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
Whereas I am concerned that somebody (you Kazuok?) has purged mention of fascism from the page, and apparently taken the category out as well. I expected to see a lot of debate on this Talk page about it but was surprised to see none. Everything on the page points towards the well-known reality that the falangists were fascists but somehow the word is not mentioned. This is very poor. I am not a regular wikipedia editor - just stopped by to say this is a big problem. At present the page seems to have been edited by someone or some people lacking objectivity, with an agenda of rehabilitating Falangism. I will put something in if I can.
Is this article about an ideology or about a political movement? Yes, yes, it can be about both at the same time too, yes, but if that were the case, it needs to be structured much, much better. Do scholars comment on it as full-fledged set of ideas (worldview) outside of typifying as variant of Spanish fascism with some perks, and the mention of the 27 points? If they do not, the rest of the article is sorrily framed. I've checked a couple of sources, and there is a lot of synth in the article if the intention is to describe an ideology as the first paragraph states. This article is confusing.--Asqueladd (talk) 01:07, 8 February 2020 (UTC)