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Call him what?!?
In today's world of 24-hour royal baby name news, it's hard to find any stupid thing particularly absurd. But November 1948 was a different time. During nameless Charles' hoopla, a reader from Chicago answered an Evening Times poll with such an unbelievably outlandish suggestion that it wound up back across the pond, via AP, where Ottawa Citizen readers shared a hearty "What will those crazy Yankees think up next?"
If you're sitting down with your monocle secured, get ready to hold on to your hat, because it's a doozie!
- If not, maybe those three consensus "most likely" names could be useful, in a boring trivia way. I think they were the same three favourites for Charlotte's brother, sixty-odd years later. InedibleHulk (talk) 15:20, September 13, 2015 (UTC)
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Change Camilla Parker Bowles to Camilla Shand in Charles' listed spouses at the top right of the page. Lady Diana Spencer is referred to by her maiden name, so to be consistent so should Camilla. 2001:8003:DDDC:BE00:ED34:A344:E300:2D6 (talk) 09:55, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
- It is consistent. Both names are the names they held immediately before marriage. DrKay (talk) 11:35, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
What will we name this page when Charles becomes King, before a regnal name is announced?
(First off, don't worry! She's still alive.) Okay, here goes: when the Queen dies and Charles (presumably) becomes King of the United Kingdom – what will we rename this page? I know it's not super important right now, but it's good to get ahead of things and have plans in place. Wikipedians are notorious for being quick to update information, so it's near-certain that whenever Elizabeth II passes (whether that's a month, a year, or a decade from now) there'll be an absurd scramble of users trying to figure out what the heck to do, and a wave of editors trying to figure out what on earth the title of this page would be. It's best to discuss and establish a consensus ahead of time so we're not caught in a chaotic frenzy when that date inevitably occurs (I mean, if it ever does, given how long the Queen has survived thus far).
Also, I'm referring to the interim period of time following the Queen's death BUT BEFORE Charles's regnal name is announced. Obviously when his official regnal name is announced, we'd move the page to his official regnal name. (To be fair, he could announce his regnal name within minutes of the Queen's death. Obviously, we haven't dealt with this before, so it's hard to say exactly what will happen and when. No clue — it could honestly be minutes, hours, days, or longer between the Queen's passing and any sort of regnal name announcement, and a second is an eternity for many a Wikipedian.)
It wouldn't be wise to name this page to "Charles III of the United Kingdom" before a regnal name is announced — it's not a given that he'll go by "Charles III". He could very easily go by "George VII" (and, given rumors, there's a solid chance he might end up doing so). I'm not 100% certain, but I'm pretty sure he ceases to be Prince of Wales when he becomes King, so it wouldn't make sense to keep this page at "Charles, Prince of Wales" when news breaks of the Queen's death. So when that moment eventually happens, what will we name this page? Would it make sense to name the page "Charles of the United Kingdom" when it happens? It's a term that already redirects here, given that the past ones were Kings before it was "the United Kingdom". Thoughts? Paintspot Infez (talk) 03:11, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
- I’d personally propose that we use, “Charles, King of the United Kingdom”. It has a distinction from the other guys named Charles, as it omits the number. Although, I’m still kinda torn. Thoughts? The Image Editor (talk) 21:59, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- Following the demise of the Crown, the Accession Council meets, at the latest, the morning after (e.g. if the monarch dies during the night). The proclamation of accession immediately follows the meeting of the Council. It seems pointless to move the article to a speculative title only to move it again within hours. Opera hat (talk) 23:20, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
- A reminder from the colonies: The person who is monarch of the UK has many other jobs that go automatically to them. These include being the monarch of places like Canada, Australia and lots of others. We describe Elizabeth as being "Queen of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms". (I believe there are 15 of them.) So all the suggestions above for Charles being "...of the United Kingdom" are inaccurate. Of course this all highlights that there are many more articles that would need to be updated than might immediately be thought of, such as Monarchy of Australia. HiLo48 (talk) 04:43, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
- It's a useful discussion to have, as even if the page only moves to a temporary name for 24 hours, it will probably have millions hits over that period (it presently gets between 30,000 and 40,000 a day and Joe Biden got over 2.6m on 20 January 2021 and over 3.8m on 8 November 2020), plus, as has already been said, if there isn't a discussion now, it could be chaotic when the time does come. How does either Charles of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms or Charles, King of the United Kingdom and the other Commonwealth realms sound? FollowTheTortoise (talk) 17:48, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- It would not be "inaccurate" to describe him as King of the United Kingdom just because he also has other titles. We have established ways of dealing with monarchs of multiple realms already in place (WP:NCROY: "Where a monarch has reigned over a number of states, use the most commonly associated ordinal and state."), and they would apply to Charles just as much as they apply to, e.g., George II, whose article is at George II of Great Britain despite the fact that he was also King of Ireland and Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg. This won't matter for long, though: as either Charles III or George VII he'd clearly be the dominant meaning and should be at the simple name just as his mother is at Elizabeth II. Proteus (Talk) 11:17, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Charles III (17 September 879 – 7 October 929), called the Simple or the Straightforward (from the Latin Carolus Simplex),[a] was the king of West Francia from 898 until 922 and the king of Lotharingia from 911 until 919–23. He was a member of the Carolingian dynasty. Sampajanna (talk) 08:06, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
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Correct Prince Charles' full name to remove Mountbatten-Windsor. Per the 1960's letters patent issued by The Queen, he does not need to use it as he is styled as a HRH Prince.
- Not done Please gain consensus for this edit before using the edit request template. DrKay (talk) 23:20, 18 February 2021 (UTC)
While Mountbatten-Windsor is surname that can be used when it is necessary they don’t use that everyday or built career around that name. There was no surname on his birth certificate for example. And I checked other European royal houses in Wikipedia they did not add family name either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berfu (talk • contribs) 11:39, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
I was just reading through this article and I noticed that its lead image isn't really very good. His Royal Highness appears to be unusually red in the face (almost as if it has been airbrushed), with an unusual expression on his face (so perhaps not representative, under MOS:LEADIMAGE) and it generally doesn't really seem like a nice, professional-looking picture that befits the future King (although I don't think that there isn't any policy about this and I intend no offence to the photographer, it seems like common sense that we should use nice pictures, so long as they are representative, where possible). HRH is also not really facing the camera. I'm not an expert in this area, but I found this picture on Flickr. It seems like a generally better picture to use, though it is from 2012, but HRH's appearance hasn't really changed since then (I think that there is a policy about this, but I can't seem to find it). What are people's thoughts on this? FollowTheTortoise (talk) 17:29, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- I tend to agree. He seems to be quite pleased that he knows something we don't. To my mind the image is positively begging for a speech bubble. But I guess that's not allowed here. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- Since commenting above, I've been reminded that there was an RfC at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Images about whether the lead image should be the most recent and the result was against recent images being preferred and in favor of deciding on a case-by-case basis. DrKay (talk) 18:37, 2 March 2021 (UTC)